LimpyLoo Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 how to (dis)solve a currently-Unfriendly Stranger prelude If you'll allow, I'd like to humbly offer some more 'cross-discipline alchemy', in the form of two (old/new, abstract/concrete) strategies when dealing with an (angry and sadistic) Unfriendly Stranger: one Friendly, and one ('smash in case of emergency') Unfriendly. (p.s. if you'd like to [search + replace] "Unfriendly Stranger" with [e.g.] "Fascist", "Neo-Nazi", "pissy neighbor", "Unfriendly AI-in-a-Box (...?)", "monster who just kidnapped me or a loved one or anyone else", "authoritarian goon", "moody barista"...well who is gonna stop you?***...) ***i mean, except for... a) one (possible) Friendly strategy did anybody see Midnight Express? (I friggin' love that movie) okay so, quick aside... our boy Frege had an insanely-useful idea: TL;DR = if you just keep staring at the 'data set' long enough, the answer is always, always hidden in there, somewhere... [but (of course) he offered this idea in the language of 'modal logic', so it sometimes gets lost in translation...] so back to Midnight Express... well, let's see if we can't smash Frege into Midnight Express to maybe spot our hero's 'crossroads' strategy misstep and generate a better strategy: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Epk_OfOAkMo did anyone spot the misstep? (it looks kinda like a giant 'babel monster' has pulled the 'veil of maya' over the eyes of everyone involved, no?) b) has anyone every seen either a police interrogation? or a hostage negotiation? So both of those strategies are based on one very dirty, very Unfriendly trick, borrowed straight from the empirical literature of (e.g. social) psychology: If you and I are talking, And I am convinced that you are exactly like me, And therefor 'on my side' in this whole mess: Well dude, I don't get to talk sincerely about my inner life much with other people, so here goes... And as it turns out: the more hubristic and (thus) lonely I am inside, The more eager I am to open up to you, And thus the weaker my Persona 'shield' ...but there is one major flaw in this Unfriendly strategy: in Barton Fink, John Turturro only got away with it once , Why? Well, because (as you already know) he had a 'fatal credibility gap' cheers, -b P.S. Maybe we should be designing an AI with human-like Hubris Susceptibility built into it... [end of 1/2] (next time: Jungian Archetypes meet Chaos Theory, Actual Practical Real-World Implementation, and the Many Obstacles along the Way) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 Oops, I overlooked a rather crucial 'hidden hypothesis/assumption': Why do less-than-Friendly (e.g.) politicians always seem to get away with causing the world a huge fucking Bad Time? Hypothesis: because their true intentions always remain implicit, and hidden from the public, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 So how about the hidden True Intention: Anyone/Anything that ever disagrees with me (e.g. Media, Journalism, Democracy, Joy, Love, Humanity, the Entire Universe and Everything In It) deserves a Boot pressed against Its Throat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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peace 7 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Yah, so-- ...Can I have some of your weed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 Yah, so-- ...Can I have some of your weed? with Babel like that? Then the answer is 'no'. (plus I quit a few months ago, sorry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 If it's worth anything to you, Peace: A couple days ago I made a huge (and painfully sincere) list of people I admire and aspire to be like. And you'll never guess who was on that list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 this thread has been flagged by Steve Bannon. End of line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghOsty Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 I'm saying (among other things) that we shouldn't use words (etc) to try to hurt each other? Do you agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 (i.e. Try to guess the best 'strategy' at this (y/n) 'crossroads'!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 limpy, are you ok? i'm honestly concerned about your posting behaviour. looks erratic to me. hope im not too frank... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 limpy, are you ok? i'm honestly concerned about your posting behaviour. looks erratic to me. hope im not too frank... I don't think you're trying to hurt me, no. I'm just trying to get us all on the 'same page' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 ok. not sure what that means. but i think i consider this as dumping your thoughts in a thread like a soundcloud dump for people to enjoy. regardless of the page they're at. i wouldnt waste too much time with getting "us all" on some specific page. its a free world. people can be on whatever page they want to. and they will be regardless. you cant control these things. and i'd argue thats a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 ok. not sure what that means. but i think i consider this as dumping your thoughts in a thread like a soundcloud dump for people to enjoy. regardless of the page they're at. i wouldnt waste too much time with getting "us all" on some specific page. its a free world. people can be on whatever page they want to. and they will be regardless. you cant control these things. and i'd argue thats a good thing. We can certainly try to get everyone on the 'same page.' Should we really not try? (Because that sounds like a bummer for everyone involved, yo.) Maybe it could be an even freer world than...whatever is happening right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Jan Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Does watmm really need another deranged incomprehensibly cryptic Limpy thread? I thought you already had your own. Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5X met Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Yeah why are there two of these now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 Does watmm really need another deranged incomprehensibly cryptic Limpy thread? I thought you already had your own. Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5X met Tapatalk Should I not speak freely? I thought this was a 'free world' of some sort? I am not trying to cause anyone harm, although I guess I've been extremely hurtful and insincere in the past, so my credibility is rather shot, yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Jan Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Speak coherently preferably. Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5X met Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 Speak coherently preferably. Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5X met Tapatalk Is that comment meant to guide me or hurt me? Speak coherently preferably. Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5X met Tapatalk Is that comment meant to guide me or hurt me?(Or some monstrous combination of the two?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I'm just confused as to what makes the OP in this thread worthy of its own thread, as opposed being posted in your psychology thread? It comes across as attention seeking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Jan Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Being hurt by words on the internet is on the receivers end. I just have absolutely NO clue what you are blathering about in here, and I'm considering locking the thread. Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5X met Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roasty Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 Being hurt by words on the internet is on the receivers end. I just have absolutely NO clue what you are blathering about in here, and I'm considering locking the thread. Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5X met Tapatalk Okay, but I think using insincerity to try to cause harm is on the sender's end. (That's the reason I started this thread, in fact...I'm trying to become a better person because my shitty goal used to be: using insincerity to try to cause harm to those I was talking to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entorwellian Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 What the fuck self-gratifying, attention seeking logorrhea trite shit? Give me back the bandwidth you stole from me to post that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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