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i need this post as an actual poster i can frame and hang in my living room

exactly

brother, we all know you like this bc kanye is on it be serious

i do think the irony here is that you two are in hyper granpa mode with this one valorizing a trap album that is filled to the brim with nothing but genre conventions as indicative of what is "weird in hip-hop" is absolutely bed pan levels of the octogenarian

lol. lmao. this record debuted at number 1 on the billboard 200 and has received superlative judgement in mainstream press. this is a factual observation, not a cliche. I know you’re aware of this. i just think it’s cringe to portray the fact that this didn’t get a lot of hype on watmm as an indication that it’s too “weird” for the olds. it’s a mainstream hip hop album. there’s absolutely nothing innovative about it, it’s 808 samples playing some of the most done to death beats in an extremely tired genre with very mid rapping. take a listen to 5 seconds of the ae live shit that just got released and then tell me playboi cardi is too weird for watmm. come on man. I absolutely do not care if music is mainstream, I love plenty of mainstream shit and I don’t begrudge anybody for liking popular music at all. I’m pushing back against the implication that people on this forum are too closed-minded to appreciate something like this, bc frankly this is very simplistic music that is quite easy to ignore among the mass of music that it sounds identical to. this shit is the sound coming out of every single smartphone or car speaker in the last decade. it’s also played (literally in the case of carti) in hip restaurants with hard to pronounce asian names. which I know bc I work in the same building as one of these lol

don’t be daft m9 like what you like, I’m just pushing back at a common kind of music snobbery where people claim that others are too old or closed minded to understand the music you like…especially if it’s an extremely mainstream hip hop album with (imo) very tired lyrics and played out trap beats that are like a decade past their prime.

the album is basically entirely composed of cliche, is massively popular, and has received acclaim by basically every mainstream outlet. watmm isn't advanced enough to get this legit weird masterpiece...ok man

this was a bit annoying bc martyn just never stfu and i feel like jack never really gets a chance to open up. but it's cool to hear two legends chatting and some nice tidbits. i don't think i knew there were originally 7 mbm tunes in the matrix, that's wild!

Oh wow cool this is unexpected. The first one is one of the best records on line imo

so far i've listened through Helsinki and London B twice. these are fucking incredible what the fuck. sometimes the London goes into Coil territory for me - BLD and WTG in particular - in terms of some of the crusty metallic tones and just the unsettling but chill vibe.

yeah, I find these very soft and textural in a really new way for ae. it’s very…frothy and lush

aye brother. to me this section really shows ae in master mode, some truly gorgeous craftsmanship here.

sean walks across the stage to the table. applause. rob follows behind. again, applause (maybe this is continued applause, the crowd applauds this whole time for both brothers equally). the laptops are ready. sean presses the space bar and both screens light up. the system is activated. the rig is running. not much can be seen on stage, just the glow of two faces. british. but not "chavs." rob is drinking stella and soon is throwing up into a water bottle. sean is agitated as he had just been wrestling off stage. the beats are skipping all around. formant synthesis. the kick sounds like it has a .0000000001 millisecond delay on it which gives it that classic "ae sound." it kinda sounds like metal tubes are falling down a stairwell. occasionally the crowd hears liquid tones, more organic. rob seems to be doing not much at all but then we get a signature ae pad for approximately 80 seconds. there's so much emotion in this pad the crowd seems to be tearing up. i imagine myself in the crowd. the pad evokes memories of my grandma, a beach where the water meets the horizon at an ambiguous point, various blurred memories. i am disgruntled bc this feels too "boc." what's next, a sesame street sample? the sound of a child's laughter. sean seems to detect my exact feeling bc he presses a series of keys (i'm thinking F > Return > 5 > ^ > Return) and the beat becomes completely "fucked" and probably around 400bpm. everything is so fast it sounds like a ferrari (aka "lambo") going top speed underwater. there's a surreal atmosphere. i believe this is reverb. these guys must be using custom fx. the reverb makes it sound like there is a separate ae concert happening in the distance somewhere. you can't quite hear it but it's there, like a barely perceptible memory trying to break through. sean gets mad bc he hears someone in the audience saying "this is generative" so the set is cut short. rob seems confused and keeps typing on the keyboard. but sean has powered down the system. nothing can be heard. the lights turn back on. everyone looks around kinda like "woah wild mental wtf." the crowd shuffles out. rob is still clacking away at the keyboard. one wonders if he's trying to boot up the rig or if he's typing to his family back in the "uk."

autechre - the sets 2022 by the brothers. you can tell they're using their "rig" or "the system" for these live sessions. very computer. max. msp. kenton controllers. mackie mixer. live.

lots of Excellent Pads on this album ofc: https://artofvengeance.bandcamp.com/track/ottil

If you “click” on that black box it calls you a “chav,” “cunt”

this is definitely delightful stuff, brian has absolutely incredible skills.

correct this is RDJ's twin making tracks

this is so weird bc i remember 2 of these sloping syd tunes ("bags offal" and R cham tasting") and i remember i burned them to a cd (lol) and listed the artist as "RJD"* i feel this enhances the mystery considerably *i know what you're thinking but yes, it was RJD

this book is unbelievably good. feel like the band is leaping from the page into real life. powerful documents of a band that really was like nothing else.

the most offensive thing about all of this is that there is a vaporwave festival at all. forcing this to be a genre with artists who perform live is really corny to me. mfs are supposed to be anonymous with names in Japanese making music that is 100% just like one song from 1992 pitched down with a phaser and some delay. bitch I don’t want to see this “live” lmao

this kicks ass. i love how autechre just do mixes from time to time. sean will just be like "hey doing a little mix in a few" and then he does like a 12 hour set. whenever they release new material it's like 30 hours of shit. they go on tour and absolutely melt everyone's mind. constantly churning, moving, keeping fresh and expanding. overall, feels like no one notices any of this. otoh aphex does fuck all in public. then he plays live shows which are dj sets. uses like a $500k light rig. warp goes bankrupt marketing his new release of 14 mins of music very much sounding like shit we've all heard before. feels like everyone loses their shit over this and it's a huge event. ofc i love richard and he's our dad. we all know this. but we gotta admit, the ae brothers...they spoil us with riches

Haha wow I didn’t realize @cruising for burgers was cubensis, beatoven, etc @egggohan your post brings back the memory of several people I’d long forgotten. it’s strange to consider how long ago all that was. i think I joined in 2005.

finally getting to see them live after first hearing them over 25 years ago. sort of strange to even think of this. new single sounds great. i appreciate this softer sound, feels good!

sweet thank you!