awepittance Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 GBIII: yeah I have The Black Dossier on cbr but haven't read it yet, have heard negative things compared to the other 2 vol's..... am wanting to read the Civil War series(i know not Moore or really a graphic novel).... and it is a bit of an undertaking.... I will read The Black Dossier definitely.... Promethea is one of the greatest things I have ever read...along with From Hell....I need to read the Miracleman series and Moore's Swamp thing, have those as well but haven't gotten to them yet what do you think of Morrison's Seven Soldiers of Victory? i've never really gotten into morrison, but i've been meaning to. I will check that out. Promethea was one of moore's i had trouble absorbing myself in but now that it's been a while since i read it i definitly want to revisist it, in fact the Black Dossier has a lot of references to the similar hallucinatory magical world in promethea. I found Black Dossier to a strong departure from the previous 2, don't go in expecting the same thing. I was kind of happy it wasn't just a new spin on the same concept. bonus: the ending is in 3d and there is a great back story to how all the mythical creatures and gods on earth came into existence and how they are related to each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benedict Cumberbatch Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 blankets is a masterpiece. everything craig thompson has done is great. also highly recommend: chris ware - jimmy corrigan (also his rusty brown stuff in the later acme libraries) charles burns - black hole adrian tomine - 32 stories (not a novel a collection but better than everything hes done since) dash shaw - bodyworld (if its out yet. its all on his website http://www.dashshaw.com/prelude.html and is easily my favorite thing this year) i'm forgetting alot of people i enjoyed preacher too. didnt think i would i also love 100 bullets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 GBIII: read The Invisibles man, Morrison's best work that I have read... We3 is amazing as well.... I hear his newest Batman writing has been really good..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benedict Cumberbatch Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 keep it comin yall anyone read persepolis? saw the movie and it was great definitely worth a read, suprisingly engrossing. join a library, thre is much good stuff out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Salads Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 People who call comics graphic novels are people who dont read comics In my experience it's actually completely the opposite. Especially since they aren't exactly the same thing. The analogy I'd make would be comparing a single episode of a television show to a full length film. In my experience the people who genuinely read and like comics do more than read 'graphic novels'. I think that phrase has only entered the mainstream within the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I always just thought the term referred to a collected series or a one off that is meant for adults or kids that can handle reading something more intelligent than the average superhero issue.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Salads Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I always just thought the term referred to a collected series or a one off that is meant for adults or kids that can handle reading something more intelligent than the average superhero issue.... Thats the thing though. I would argue those kinds of stories arent more "intelligent." Its just elitism because the books are black and white, or tackle a specific subject, etc. So yes you are right, the term does refer to that. But its not an accurate term. Its a term coined by people who want to separate the "grown up" books from the "kids" books because people who read comics are identified as losers. In other words, the people who dont think too fondly of comic books coined the term "graphic novel" to sound like they are more educated and reading stuff that isnt garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 the stuff I enjoy is all William Blake to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeshi Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 People who call comics graphic novels are people who dont read comics In my experience it's actually completely the opposite. Especially since they aren't exactly the same thing. The analogy I'd make would be comparing a single episode of a television show to a full length film. In my experience the people who genuinely read and like comics do more than read 'graphic novels'. I think that phrase has only entered the mainstream within the last few years. Reminds me of when a friend of mine would confuse anime with manga. In that way I'm sure some people confuse graphic novels with comics but your average comic nerd knows the difference because saying they read a graphic novel sounds more grown up/mature than reading a comic book. I always just thought the term referred to a collected series or a one off that is meant for adults or kids that can handle reading something more intelligent than the average superhero issue.... Thats the thing though. I would argue those kinds of stories arent more "intelligent." Its just elitism because the books are black and white, or tackle a specific subject, etc. So yes you are right, the term does refer to that. But its not an accurate term. Its a term coined by people who want to separate the "grown up" books from the "kids" books because people who read comics are identified as losers. In other words, the people who dont think too fondly of comic books coined the term "graphic novel" to sound like they are more educated and reading stuff that isnt garbage. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 anything Epic Comics ever did, and most of Vertigo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chim Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 anything by greg ruth http://www.gregthings.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springymajig Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I've only recently been exploring the world of comics/grahic novels. Overall, I've found that the ones with good art (ie, doesn't look like typical comic book style) have boring stories. I don't know how this trend came about but it seems to be the case quite frequently. However, there are plenty of exceptions. Sandman - I've read at least half of it and it's my favourite by far, absolutely amazing. The art is usually not very pleasing but tells the story well enough. Persepolis - I loved the film, not quite as keen on the book but worth reading. Maus - Actually read this years ago, it's fantastic, very well written and one of the exceptions in that it has good art too. Jimmy Corrigan - another exception to the bad art rule, this has excellent drawings, very cool style. And the story is great... it gets a little boring in the second half because there's a very long flashback, but it's very nicely written. Arkham Asylum - Great art (Dave McKean is AWESOME) but boring and pointless story. The Killing Joke - Cool little Batman story. Nothing mind blowing, it's just cool. Have yet to read Dark Knight Returns or Year One so I dunno how it compares. Zero Girl - I do really wanna read the Maxx, also by Sam Keith, cos I loved the TV show, but haven't got round to it yet. This is a one off and it's pretty sweet! Really weird and cool story with awesome artwork. I didn't like the sequel much tho. American Splendour - It took me a while to warm up to this but by the end I really liked it. It's a collection of mostly very short slice of life kinda stories based on Harvey Pekar's day to day life. Hardly anything happens in them, and often it left me wondering what attracted the author to record some of the situations, but eventually I sorta "got it"... it really is about appreciating the more mundane side of life... cos now I realise that I have, in my memory little moments like this that aren't significant in any way but just stick with me for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesomeperson Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 I got Batman Year One for free, amazing read!! It blew me away how immersive it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IRARI Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 i just finished blankets and i'm about to start jimmy corrigan, loved blankets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo Strike Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 Persopolis I found very enjoying. Easy to get a cheap copy now the films been out for a while. I really want to read Blankets, but it's really hard to get hold of in the UK. Can anyone recommend somewhere to get it? It seems to be out of print for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 a lovely panel from zenith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IRARI Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 i didn't really like the invisibles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Poole Posted May 25, 2009 Share Posted May 25, 2009 anyone here have thoughts on the new loeg century:1910? i thought it was excellent and i'm glad to see moore bring back any abc title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnTqs Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Persopolis I found very enjoying. Easy to get a cheap copy now the films been out for a while. I really want to read Blankets, but it's really hard to get hold of in the UK. Can anyone recommend somewhere to get it? It seems to be out of print for ages. are there barnes and noble in the uk? i was reading blankets at one of there stores over here but didn't buy it. if all else fails go amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 Joe Sacco - Palestine Paul Pope - 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doorjamb Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 LOBO morrision's Doom Patrol and Animal Man Plastic Man recently got a couple by ricardo delgado called 'age of reptiles'. no words, just page after page of well-drawn dinosaur-on-dinosaur carnage! (if you're into that sort of thing) i didn't really like the invisibles not exactly groundbreaking stuff but I've enjoyed what I've read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 lobo! i forgot about lobo lobo was cool. also it demonstrated bisley was still an impressive artist without the slick airbrush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnTqs Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 recommend some that have great stories and depth "comics for intellectuals" i guess like watchmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Enter a new display name Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 blankets is good but considering your other 3 picks its hard to say if you'd like it or not My last essay for french class was about this graphic novel. I was becoming impatient as it took so much time for Craig to get laid with Raina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted May 26, 2009 Share Posted May 26, 2009 i didn't really like the invisibles not exactly groundbreaking stuff but I've enjoyed what I've read The Invisibles is fucking amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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