eugene Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Should we create a neanderthal? yeah, do it, fuck it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaarg Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I'm against it. Too much bad can come out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plarkreluke Banloboh Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 but brain-to-body mass ratio is the important bit. If it's as simple as that then it follows that Neanderthals were intelligent beyond our understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterE Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 which would seem to go against the fact that they died out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boo Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 but brain-to-body mass ratio is the important bit. If it's as simple as that then it follows that Neanderthals were intelligent beyond our understanding. it's not as simple as that. they might have had the capacity to be more intelligent but became obsessed with body building or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaarg Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Ok. If I got 100 000 000$ right now and a major Hollywood studio was at my disposal I'd make a movie about how our ancestors wiped out neanderthals as they gave up wanting peace and our ancestors wouldn't have any of it. It would be shot as a mix of Odyssey 2001 and Koyaanisqatsi styles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 they didn't fully die out, we got freaky with them. if you're not from africa you're part neanderthal already. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=neandertal-genome-study-r not sure how i feel about creating a new one, but i'm not gonna sit here and pretend this is a technology anybody can stop forever. synthetic biology is just going to be more and more common. kids used to blow up frogs... now they'll play with their genes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaartenVC Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Ok. If I got 100 000 000$ right now and a major Hollywood studio was at my disposal I'd make a movie about how our ancestors wiped out neanderthals as they gave up wanting peace and our ancestors wouldn't have any of it. It would be shot as a mix of Odyssey 2001 and Koyaanisqatsi styles. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triachus Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 We should create one and let it piss in the eyes of every single creationist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkreso Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Of course we should. Why is this even a question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Franklin Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I am 100% behind Dr. Church's idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest isaki Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Of course we should. Why is this even a question? wait, so the creation of one of these things would essentially debunk christianity etc. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markedone Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I'm against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaarg Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frankie5fingers Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Of course we should. Why is this even a question? wait, so the creation of one of these things would essentially debunk christianity etc. ? i fail to see how that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dese manz hatin Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I am also against this. While it would be super interesting, is nobody concerned with the ethics of this? We are essentially creating a semi-human being, definitely intelligent with self-conciousness. Would he have human rights? How would that guy feel, being the only one of his kind on the whole planet, basically created for "show" and an object created for science. Nobody could really be sure about his "legal" status, i.e. a strange creature, not human, not animal that we don't really have working categories for yet? That seems to me like the first step of scientists playing creators and doing dubious experiments with sentient being who would deserve better than being created at the will of some human overlords. There are so many ethical problems with cloning human beings, how would that be different. Apart from that, the guy would so definitely become WWE champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dese manz hatin Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 btw, how do creationists explain neanderthals? I get how they deal with apes, i.e. they exist but no evolutionary connection to us. but what about the intermediate stages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triachus Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 btw, how do creationists explain neanderthals? I get how they deal with apes, i.e. they exist but no evolutionary connection to us. but what about the intermediate stages? gord put dem ere to testus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodie Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 no, it's unethical. imagine what type of life he or she would lead. it would be awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 on the other hand, imagine the reddit ama, the memoir, the guest appearance on survivorman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dese manz hatin Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 i hope he will be elected as governor of california Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 no, it's unethical. imagine what type of life he or she would lead. it would be awful. it's depressing everyone assumes this. I'd like to think we'd be better than that. For one thing, they could interbreed with us, so it's not like they'd have to be alone forever. And with modern dress, I don't think they'd stand out more in a crowd than say, an australian aborigine or papua new guinean would. on the other hand, they'd have no parents, and there doesn't seem to be much research value to bringing them back to life. It's not like they could teach us how neanderthals made stone tools or cave paintings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghOsty Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 only if pauly shore is involved somehow. and by involved i mean killed. I say do it, but if the Neanderthal ends up not being a super cool cave-bro like Brendan Frasier, then I'm gonna be really disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterE Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 i think, instead, these scientist people should focus on making a monstrous human centipede body with plenty of arms and legs (no ass to mouth just one big body), and multiple eyes and all the tools i would need to survive forever after they put my brain inside it. lets do this. and under tools that includes a usb port so i can interface and hack stuff like R2. some of the arms and legs, and the skeleton, should be metal too. just this badass human cyborg centipede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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