LimpyLoo Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 One of my absolute heroes. Shit. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/27/arts/music/paco-de-lucia-flamenco-guitarist-dies-at-66.html?_r=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Boo, that's one guitarist that will never be equalled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pennywise Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Its super happy music. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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perunamuusi Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 [youtubehd]89zM9pZzt0U[/youtubehd] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Hey Limpy posted something good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Its super happy music. RIP I think this is pretty shitty actually. I'm not even trying to be a dick or anything. The stuff limpy posted is a bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calx Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Wow, astonishing. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Yeah I was never blown away by Paco's band stuff. It always seemed like a failed experiment to me, especially in the 70's when it seemed like it was legally required for an electric bass to be present in the room at all times. Alot of jazzers did the same thing with similar results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Part of it for me is the inherent shittiness of the sound quality of picking around like that on an acoustic. If he were on an electric it could be a lot nicer. even then I think it lacks focus on composition and has too much emphasis on walking around the fretboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pennywise Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 maybe you should pick up a guitar and do better then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 Part of it for me is the inherent shittiness of the sound quality of picking around like that on an acoustic. If he were on an electric it could be a lot nicer. even then I think it lacks focus on composition and has too much emphasis on walking around the fretboard. Well I hate to take the side of the purist but the acoustic (flamenco, specifically) guitar is integral to flamenco music in the way a kick drum is integral to house music. Many of the techniques of flamenco (e.g. golpe) can't even be performed on an electric guitar (well, they can be performed but not heard). Many of the technical nuances like--dynamics or timbre--simply wouldn't be noticable on an electric. It is the same with an acoustic piano versus a Fender Rhodes: the Rhodes is a beautiful instrument but it doesn't have the nuance of an acoustic piano. I just think the rawness and nuance and intimacy of flamenco requires a flamenco guitar. And I'm only really taking a faux-purist stance because there happens to be--in my eyes--aesthetic merit to the tradition of flamenco. Paco was a great destroyer of tradition. He got booed by purist audiences for his posture and his experimental treatment of the traditional flamenco forms. But he retained the aspects of flamenco that make aesthetic sense to him. Anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pennywise Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Its just nice happy spanish music and you guys have to analyse it and make it boring. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rulohead32 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 RIP great man :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 p.s. I can't emphasize the importance of timbre and tone enough. So much so that a flamenco guitarist's life revolves around the well-being of his fingernails. I studied flamenco guitar for about a year, and I ultimately gave up because my tone sucked on account of my shitty fingernails that I've been biting since I was 7. That and the golpe (tapping the pickguard with your fingernail while you strum). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 Its just nice happy spanish music Err I dunno about that. Flamenco is all about lust and passion and suffering and loss and death. In a word: duende. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pennywise Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Its totally dancing music, therefore happy music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usagi Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 RIP. not listened to a great deal of the man's work but definitely had some appreciation. [youtubehd]89zM9pZzt0U[/youtubehd] this is actually my favourite shred of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Ugh, I spent practically all of high school listening to Paco and forcing my Spanish language class to listen to Paco. RIP. Also: yes, that is the best shred. Also: the second guitar trio album from 1996 was a lot better than the wanky original one: this album was basically on infinite repeat while I was studying for the SATs way back in the old timey days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usagi Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 forcing my Spanish language class to listen to Paco. how did you accomplish this? tell me you hijacked the PA or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 p.s. I can't emphasize the importance of timbre and tone enough. So much so that a flamenco guitarist's life revolves around the well-being of his fingernails. I studied flamenco guitar for about a year, and I ultimately gave up because my tone sucked on account of my shitty fingernails that I've been biting since I was 7. That and the golpe (tapping the pickguard with your fingernail while you strum). I understand where you are coming from but that track specifically I don't like it. I enjoy the two you posted a great deal more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blir Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Its super happy music. RIP I think this is pretty shitty actually. I'm not even trying to be a dick or anything. The stuff limpy posted is a bit better. lol shut up trent ur an idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Its super happy music. RIP I think this is pretty shitty actually. I'm not even trying to be a dick or anything. The stuff limpy posted is a bit better. lol shut up trent ur an idiot Come on man. It's the equivalent of a techno track that only has changes in melody and has a continuous percussion track. They are great sometimes, but they have to be perfect. Might as well just turn on a metronome or something. I just agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted February 28, 2014 Author Share Posted February 28, 2014 Personal taste is personal taste innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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