LimpyLoo Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 thank god no real full fledged ISIS attack has happened yet in the United States, I say thank god because after that we're all going to be a lot fucking dumber. If you miss what 9/12/01 felt like you're in for a treat so like...what is to be done about ISIS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skibby Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 time to stop funding isis or? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Suicide bomb set off in Saudi Arabia Capitol of Riyadh, during Friday prayers. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/23/world/middleeast/suicide-bombing-saudi-arabia-shiites-sunnis-yemen-mosque.html?referrer=&_r=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skibby Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 gotta love that old time religion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Bah, people need to stop believe in goofy shit. Imagine if people stopped believing that violence would get you this big juicy supernatural reward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skibby Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 them be too busy prayin when they need to be figuring out how to turn that sand green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 them be too busy prayin when they need to be figuring out how to turn that sand green There is a hypothesis that worldwide oil dependance is preventing the Middle East from needing to modernize. That is, if suddenly nobody wanted oil, and thus they needed to advance to compete economically, some of these issues would go away (as a sorta bi-product). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwmbrancity Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 as they say in Yorkshire - "Nowt stranger than folk" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Apparently the fuckers are about to ruin this (Palmyra): http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/20/syrian-city-of-palmyra-falls-under-control-of-isis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmyra no pun intended, but...well actually it's intended: those buildings are already heavily ruined! *badum tshh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 maybe we can send them a bunch off free copies of Candy Crush, that'll distract em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublename Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 ayyyyy...*detonates suicide vest* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usagi Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 ^ flol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Imagine if people stopped believing that violence would get you this big juicy supernatural reward? in all truth it probably wouldn't change a goddam thing, you really think religion is the reason why human commit insane atrocities on eachother? think again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Imagine if people stopped believing that violence would get you this big juicy supernatural reward? in all truth it probably wouldn't change a goddam thing, you really think religion is the reason why human commit insane atrocities on eachother? think again it is one reason among many i mean, ISIS certainly isn't a reaction to US foreign policy i mean, if you belong to a cult who worships a holy book that says all non-believers should die and you kill a non-believer or two it's probably not a coincidence if the book says adulterers should die and you publicly execute adulterers that's not a coincidence and it's certainly not a reaction to US Policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usagi Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 refrain from posting your juvenile, uninformed, reactionary ideas about complicated problems, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Religion is a great motivator and organizational tool. It also has the added bonus of encouraging the suspension of rational thought. Curious, why do you think humans commit atrocities against other humans? I'm not saying that religion is the one decisive factor btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Imagine if people stopped believing that violence would get you this big juicy supernatural reward?in all truth it probably wouldn't change a goddam thing, you really think religion is the reason why human commit insane atrocities on eachother? think again it is one reason among many i mean, ISIS certainly isn't a reaction to US foreign policy i mean, if you belong to a cult who worships a holy book that says all non-believers should die and you kill a non-believer or two it's probably not a coincidence if the book says adulterers should die and you publicly execute adulterers that's not a coincidence and it's certainly not a reaction to US Policy Lol hi limpy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublename Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I tend to just think there's a subset of people who just enjoy carnage and destruction the way normal people enjoy fucking and driving fast. If they can't do it in the name of religion, they'll do it in the name of politics or race or tribe or______. I think.... *shrugs*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Member of ISIS? There's a 99% chance you've had problems with the ladies throughout most of your life. Your sexual frustrations are immense and are expressed in absolute depravity and murderous perversion. The benefits of joining an organization like ISIS? 72 virgins in heaven (your lady troubles are a thing of the past) YOU WIN also... jews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Imagine if people stopped believing that violence would get you this big juicy supernatural reward?in all truth it probably wouldn't change a goddam thing, you really think religion is the reason why human commit insane atrocities on eachother? think again it is one reason among many i mean, ISIS certainly isn't a reaction to US foreign policy i mean, if you belong to a cult who worships a holy book that says all non-believers should die and you kill a non-believer or two it's probably not a coincidence if the book says adulterers should die and you publicly execute adulterers that's not a coincidence and it's certainly not a reaction to US Policy Lol hi limpy. i'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you were being somewhat flippant here but i feel compelled to say that this is a really facile view of how both religion and modern warfare operate. i can't imagine you've given much thought to the situation if you stand behind this view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Imagine if people stopped believing that violence would get you this big juicy supernatural reward?in all truth it probably wouldn't change a goddam thing, you really think religion is the reason why human commit insane atrocities on eachother? think again it is one reason among many i mean, ISIS certainly isn't a reaction to US foreign policy i mean, if you belong to a cult who worships a holy book that says all non-believers should die and you kill a non-believer or two it's probably not a coincidence if the book says adulterers should die and you publicly execute adulterers that's not a coincidence and it's certainly not a reaction to US Policy Lol hi limpy. i'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you were being somewhat flippant here but i feel compelled to say that this is a really facile view of how both religion and modern warfare operate. i can't imagine you've given much thought to the situation if you stand behind this view. i was of course being flippant but anyway my point was that if you think religion isn't responsible for countless horrors then you've got some 'splainin' to do so, for instance: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/10/22/syrian-woman-accused-of-adultery-pleads-for-forgiveness-from-her-father-he-finally-caves-then-helps-militants-stone-her-to-death/ it appears that this man-- in stoning his own daughter to death-- is carrying out what he believes God's wishes to be if you think that isn't so then the burden is on you to explain it but as it stands all the evidence points to 'religious maniac acting on his twisted beliefs' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 edit: of course 'religion' is not a monolith the way 'sports' or 'food' aren't ("are sports dangerous? is food harmful?") so specifically what i mean is 'people's beliefs about how the world works' people will act in accordance with their beliefs about the world to the exact extant that they believe them so if a paranoid schizophrenic believes that they will be shot in the head if they go outside regardless of whether that's actually true he will act accordingly and not go outside so will a father who worships a god that happens to hate adultery stone his daughter to death for adultery again, if you think there is another explanation like socio-economics or mental illness or whatever then the burden is on you to explain why he appears to be acting in perfect accordance with his professed beliefs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 i suppose my response probably falls somewhat into the "so what?" category. like, why isolate these kind of incidents in particular? sure, they're despicable and disgusting and quite obviously religious beliefs have often brought out exactly such revolting and violent shit from people throughout history...but is this really our most dangerous threat? stoning people? i don't think so. imo we should probably be way more concerned with the state powers that inflict violence upon innocents to incomparably greater degrees. yeah crazy religious people are fucked up. but i'm rather more concerned with civilized violence atm. also your "burden on you" thing is pretty weird. that's not how discussions work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 i mean dude, your theory of beliefs suggests way more serious consequences in so far as those beliefs align themselves with the forces of western governments, no? if i believe that dropping bombs all over arabs will make the world a better place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 one last thing...your theory lacks explanatory power altogether imo. so beliefs are..what? they emerge independently in human individuals, untouched by other factors? the only thing that matters is the "logic" of beliefs? it just doesn't work, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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