Kidrodi Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 First of all, I'm very new to Windows. I don't know what or where everything is so bear with me pls. For some reason the CPU bar on Ableton fills up really quickly. I can only use 1 or 2 plugins before the audio starts glitching and stuttering. It's borderline unusable. I tested it on a Macbook Pro with the exact same specs and it works fine. I have ASIO4ALL v2 with the sample rate set to 44100 and buffer size on 512 What am I doing wrong here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Have you tried increasing the buffersize to see if it even makes a difference? That's all I can come up with, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WNS000 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Check your computer power saving options. Make sure they are turned off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidrodi Posted September 11, 2016 Author Share Posted September 11, 2016 Thanks, both of those things helped but didn't fix it. It doesn't happen as frequently now at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Multicore processor? Make sure that multicore support under the CPU tab in settings is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidrodi Posted September 11, 2016 Author Share Posted September 11, 2016 It is on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WNS000 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 What is your Ableton CPU meter showing when it is glitching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidrodi Posted September 11, 2016 Author Share Posted September 11, 2016 What is your Ableton CPU meter showing when it is glitching? With only one MIDI instrument it goes from 1% to 20% for like half a second. It does that maybe every 5 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WNS000 Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Check your DPC latency. Download meter for it and see if the spikes in DPC latency occur at the same time the audio drops out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidrodi Posted September 11, 2016 Author Share Posted September 11, 2016 No, no noticeable spikes. Though this is what it looks like without and with ASIO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entorwellian Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 What are the exact specs of your PC? Most likely you are missing a hardware driver or something along the lines of that. Try going to the default soundcard and see if that hogs the CPU as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidrodi Posted September 11, 2016 Author Share Posted September 11, 2016 What are the exact specs of your PC? Most likely you are missing a hardware driver or something along the lines of that. Try going to the default soundcard and see if that hogs the CPU as well. I updated the audio driver but still nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidrodi Posted September 11, 2016 Author Share Posted September 11, 2016 No audio but this is what it looks like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzvrcO1kfec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WNS000 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 No, no noticeable spikes. Though this is what it looks like without and with ASIO This is pretty bad and not normal. Are you on notebook or desktop? If on notebook, turn off your wi-fi and try again. By "turn off" I mean temporarily disabling it via Device Manager. Your DPC then should be under 500 all the time (and even less). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iococoi Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 really hard to tell from a distance. network thingies could really mess things up regarding latency..so @moment you are using the built-in soundcard? i use this app to check for latency problems. it's a bit techy.. http://www.resplendence.com/latencymon/ sometimes it's an unrelated service, which causes all those drop-outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 No, no noticeable spikes. Though this is what it looks like without and with ASIO This is pretty bad and not normal. Are you on notebook or desktop? If on notebook, turn off your wi-fi and try again. By "turn off" I mean temporarily disabling it via Device Manager. Your DPC then should be under 500 all the time (and even less). Maybe disable antivirus temporarily as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 If latency is a real issue (hence your need for ASIO4ALL) it may be worth biting the bullet and getting a proper audio interface. However if latency *isnt* a problem (i.e. you're pretty much doing everything without any external mic/line input) maybe worth just seeing if the choice of DirectSound is worth sacrificing the realtime-ness for CPU stability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WNS000 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 If latency is a real issue (hence your need for ASIO4ALL) it may be worth biting the bullet and getting a proper audio interface. However if latency *isnt* a problem (i.e. you're pretty much doing everything without any external mic/line input) maybe worth just seeing if the choice of DirectSound is worth sacrificing the realtime-ness for CPU stability Interesting. I am getting more stable and quicker sound processing with ASIO4ALL than with my external Presonus Audiobox interface. I guess USB 3.0 is not that quick yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 That's weird, USB3 should be plenty fast enough - I've a USB2.0 interface (Saffire 8i6) and even on the rare times I do stuff at 96khz there's no issues (I tend to do most stuff at 88.2 as downsamples to 44.1 nice and easily :) ). Granted I have my buffer size at 512, but that only equates to like 20ms latency (and I don't really do too much live processing of external inputs) I've always seen ASIO4ALL to be a hacky method of getting ASIO-ish latency for onboard devices (it's what I used to use before I got my previous Audiofire device) but not something that should really be used if your card does actually support ASIO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WNS000 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 ASIO4ALL grants me very stable 64 buffer operation until I go crazy with effects. It has always been superior latency-wise and stability-wise to my interface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidrodi Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 I'm just using a laptop with the built-in sound card, no external interface or anything. I've tried disabling wi-fi and the antivirus but no difference. The DPC latency seems to be fine now, doesn't surpass 1000 no matter what I do though I don't know what changed but fair enough. Also if I turn off ASIO4ALL the glitching disappears, which wasn't the case before. Again, I have no idea what happened. So I should just get an audio interface then? Thanks for all the help guys btw, It's been a real headache this thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WNS000 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Be aware that audio interfaces are hit and miss compatibility-wise. Be prepared to change a few before you find one that does not glitch and pops occasionally or all the time. It depends on your notebook's HW and drivers a lot. ASIO4ALL should be fine for everybody with a healthy computer so I would not be surprised if you had even more problems with an audio interface tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 Kidrodi did you ever get this figured out? I'm gonna be running Ableton on Windows soon and I'm curious what the problem was for you (assuming you figured it out/fixed it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidrodi Posted June 1, 2017 Author Share Posted June 1, 2017 Kidrodi did you ever get this figured out? I'm gonna be running Ableton on Windows soon and I'm curious what the problem was for you (assuming you figured it out/fixed it). Yes, the sound card was garbage. I'm not entirely sure what went wrong technically speaking but I've since been using a Focusrite interface and everything's been running smoothly. However, I have to say, Windows is fine at the end of the day but Macs are way easier to deal with when it comes to audio stuff. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 In my experience, the only advice regarding ASIO4ALL that is legit in this thread is from mcbpete If latency is a real issue (hence your need for ASIO4ALL) it may be worth biting the bullet and getting a proper audio interface. However if latency *isnt* a problem (i.e. you're pretty much doing everything without any external mic/line input) maybe worth just seeing if the choice of DirectSound is worth sacrificing the realtime-ness for CPU stability If you need to use ASIO4ALL then either you're using a sound card that's built into the motherboard, or you really need to get a decent audio interface instead of the less-than-Behringer-quality one you're using. Having tried ASIO4ALL with multiple audio interfaces and sound cards, performance is always better with officially supported ASIO drivers from the manufacturer, in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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