Sally Vingoe Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 My dad is going through radio/chemo whatever kind of therapy and if i gave him a smoke he would choke up and die... Never looked but where does this Cannabis is good for you come from? from potheads I smoke weed, but i'm not about to pretend it has magical healing properties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Thabk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JUVITH SITH Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 My dad is going through radio/chemo whatever kind of therapy and if i gave him a smoke he would choke up and die... Never looked but where does this Cannabis is good for you come from? from potheads I smoke weed, but i'm not about to pretend it has magical healing properties i have gone nowhere in life since around 14 (im now 29) purely due to Cannabis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublename Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 You're obv not smoking enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomTssPhace Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Smh @ people who fault weed for their own, unrelated laziness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUVITH SITH Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 You're obv not smoking enough. no too much, anyone that thinks cannabis has any benefit is just a bloody druggie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diatoms Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 My dad is going through radio/chemo whatever kind of therapy and if i gave him a smoke he would choke up and die... Never looked but where does this Cannabis is good for you come from? Here's scientific studies about cannabinoids and cell death (apoptosis) : https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/patient/cannabis-pdq#section/_3 Quote from National Cancer Institute website: Antitumor activity Studies in mice and rats have shown that cannabinoids may inhibit tumor growth by causing cell death, blocking cell growth, and blocking the development of blood vessels needed by tumors to grow. Laboratory and animal studies have shown that cannabinoids may be able to kill cancer cells while protecting normal cells. A laboratory study of delta-9-THC in hepatocellular carcinoma (liver cancer) cells showed that it damaged or killed the cancer cells. The same study of delta-9-THC in mouse models of liver cancer showed that it had antitumor effects. Delta-9-THC has been shown to cause these effects by acting on molecules that may also be found in non-small cell lung cancer cells and breast cancer cells. A laboratory study of cannabidiol (CBD) in estrogen receptor positive and estrogen receptor negative breast cancer cells showed that it caused cancer cell death while having little effect on normal breast cells. Studies in mouse models of metastatic breast cancer showed that cannabinoids may lessen the growth, number, and spread of tumors. http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v95/n2/abs/6603236a.html?foxtrotcallback=true http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/308/3/838 http://www.pnas.org/content/95/14/8375.full.pdf http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ijc.23584/abstract http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/08/23/20-medical-studies-that-prove-cannabis-can-cure-cancer/ https://unitedpatientsgroup.com/blog/2017/07/20/Apoptosis-Cancer-Cannabinoids https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3005548/ Here is Rick Simpson Cannabis oil Phoenix Tears site: http://phoenixtears.ca/ His film 'Run from the Cure' : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDJX7GqsQoA It's better for your Dad to eat the oil. No smoking. 60 grams over 90 days. My Dad and grandpa have both passed away from cancer. My grandpa wouldn't try it, my Dad vaped a couple of times then stopped because it was illegal. Read all the links, do more research and then talk to your Dad if you feel it is the right thing to do :) Using Cannabis as medicine also protects me from the after effects of chemo and radiation. Chemo and radiation are called cancer 'treatments' not a CURE. Cannabis has kept me in remission from cancer for 24 YEARS, Living Proof!!! Love&Light:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUVITH SITH Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 My dad is going through radio/chemo whatever kind of therapy and if i gave him a smoke he would choke up and die... Never looked but where does this Cannabis is good for you come from? Here's scientific studies about cannabinoids and cell death (apoptosis) : https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/patient/cannabis-pdq#section/_3 Quote from National Cancer Institute website: Antitumor activity Studies in mice and rats have shown that cannabinoids may inhibit tumor growth by causing cell death, blocking cell growth, and blocking the development of blood vessels needed by tumors to grow. Laboratory and animal studies have shown that cannabinoids may be able to kill cancer cells while protecting normal cells. A laboratory study of delta-9-THC in hepatocellular carcinoma (liver cancer) cells showed that it damaged or killed the cancer cells. The same study of delta-9-THC in mouse models of liver cancer showed that it had antitumor effects. Delta-9-THC has been shown to cause these effects by acting on molecules that may also be found in non-small cell lung cancer cells and breast cancer cells. A laboratory study of cannabidiol (CBD) in estrogen receptor positive and estrogen receptor negative breast cancer cells showed that it caused cancer cell death while having little effect on normal breast cells. Studies in mouse models of metastatic breast cancer showed that cannabinoids may lessen the growth, number, and spread of tumors. http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v95/n2/abs/6603236a.html?foxtrotcallback=true http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/308/3/838 http://www.pnas.org/content/95/14/8375.full.pdf http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ijc.23584/abstract http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/08/23/20-medical-studies-that-prove-cannabis-can-cure-cancer/ https://unitedpatientsgroup.com/blog/2017/07/20/Apoptosis-Cancer-Cannabinoids https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3005548/ Here is Rick Simpson Cannabis oil Phoenix Tears site: http://phoenixtears.ca/ His film 'Run from the Cure' : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDJX7GqsQoA It's better for your Dad to eat the oil. No smoking. 60 grams over 90 days. My Dad and grandpa have both passed away from cancer. My grandpa wouldn't try it, my Dad vaped a couple of times then stopped because it was illegal. Read all the links, do more research and then talk to your Dad if you feel it is the right thing to do :) Using Cannabis as medicine also protects me from the after effects of chemo and radiation. Chemo and radiation are called cancer 'treatments' not a CURE. Cannabis has kept me in remission from cancer for 24 YEARS, Living Proof!!! Love&Light:) i appreciate all the science behind the usage of cannabis... But it as if i have been taking heroin all these years... I will always argue despite FACTS... It must just be the person i think, I have lied from day one to obtain money i have stolen and i have never worked a day in my life all due to Cannabis use,,, My parents are afraid to throw me out due to the violent nature when sober and find it easier to feed my habit.... I have sold everything i own including my sole to Cannabis... So anyone with a little sense can see why i think it has no benefit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUVITH SITH Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 The psychiatrist i am seeing at the moment said Cannabis from the hippy days was good not the stuff you get now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diatoms Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 It's medicine and your endocannabinoid system needs cannabis to run properly You are not an addict and Cannabis is not a drug :) That's why it's legal to use as medicine in more than 30 usa states and other countries around the world Love&Light:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 i wouldn't take radical advice on how to treat cancer from someone who thinks there's a global conspiracy to make people misremember pop culture names and terms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavieAddison Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Smh @ people who fault weed for their own, unrelated laziness But cannabis does alter dopamine levels which directly correlates to a decrease in motivation. So do a lot of other things, but it would be stupid to deny that it doesn't have any effect on motivation in frequent users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUVITH SITH Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 oh i am no addict to cannabis because it has done nothing but destroy mine and everyone's lives, But i am now due to cannabis addicted to being in an altered state of mind... was never into the fact that cannabis is a gateway drug but f**k me i have just set a date to take smack because cannabis where i come from is shit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diatoms Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 oh i am no addict to cannabis because it has done nothing but destroy mine and everyone's lives, But i am now due to cannabis addicted to being in an altered state of mind... was never into the fact that cannabis is a gateway drug but f**k me i have just set a date to take smack because cannabis where i come from is shit... No to smack or any opioids That will destroy you Love&Light:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUVITH SITH Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 oh i am no addict to cannabis because it has done nothing but destroy mine and everyone's lives, But i am now due to cannabis addicted to being in an altered state of mind... was never into the fact that cannabis is a gateway drug but f**k me i have just set a date to take smack because cannabis where i come from is shit... No to smack or any opioids That will destroy you Love&Light:) that has been my point Cannabis alone has already destroyed me... just look at the shit i post... Richard David James is GOD... I'm next inline... Then everything else is blah... (but hey i still can have a laugh about it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUVITH SITH Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 i wouldn't take radical advice on how to treat cancer from someone who thinks there's a global conspiracy to make people misremember pop culture names and terms I'm not so sure what you mean but i don't really take advice from anyone... except yourself at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diatoms Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 Cannabis only destroys cancer cells :) Cannabis is not addictive Cannabis is medicine Try a pure Sativa (Durban Poison) It gives me Energy, Motivation, helps my Creativity and no sluggishness 4:20 packs pipe Love&Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUVITH SITH Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 i would rather be clean from anything than a druggie.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomTssPhace Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Smh @ people who fault weed for their own, unrelated laziness But cannabis does alter dopamine levels which directly correlates to a decrease in motivation. So do a lot of other things, but it would be stupid to deny that it doesn't have any effect on motivation in frequent users. Duh, but there are still many smokers that have no issue with motivation (i think they're called industrious stoners? Functional stoners?). If a person is so effected by cannabis, then that would be their own case. It goes without saying that different people have different reactions with different substances. It's still my personal conviction that the issue lies within the individual, regardless of drug use. They'll be lazy independent of how much or little they smoke. Weed certainly doesnt help such a disposition, but it certainly aint the root of the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sally Vingoe Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 (edited) note the nature of the studies - in vitro/ model animals not saying that cannabinoids may not have some benefit, and they might even be great adjuncts to traditional treatments - but meanwhile, in the real world, with the iterative development of conventional chemotherapy treatments; http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/leukemia-childhood-survival-1.4066589 Edited July 26, 2017 by Sally Vingoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomTssPhace Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Also lol this thread continues to be some time space anomaly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUVITH SITH Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 i just need some AFX that's all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diatoms Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 And here's is, as Schlitze would say, a doozie: article by Amanda Froelich http://www.trueactivist.com/there-are-now-100-scientific-studies-proving-cannabis-cures-cancer/ Following are 100 studies proving cannabis to be an all-natural cancer killer: Cannabis kills tumor cells http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1576089 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20090845 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/616322 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14640910 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19480992 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15275820 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15638794 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16818650 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17952650 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20307616 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16616335 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16624285 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10700234 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17675107 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14617682 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17342320 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16893424 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15026328 Uterine, testicular, and pancreatic cancers http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page4 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20925645 Brain cancerhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11479216 Mouth and throat cancerhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20516734 Breast cancer http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18454173 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16728591 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9653194 Lung cancer http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25069049 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22198381?dopt=Abstract http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21097714?dopt=Abstract Prostate cancer http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12746841?dopt=Abstract http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3339795/?tool=pubmed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22594963 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15753356 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10570948 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19690545 Blood cancer http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12091357 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16908594 Skin cancer http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12511587 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19608284 Liver cancerhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475304 Cannabis cancer cures (general) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12514108 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15313899 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20053780 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18199524 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19589225 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12182964 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19442435 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12723496 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16250836 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17237277 Cancers of the head and neckhttp://ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2277494 Cholangiocarcinoma cancer http://ww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19916793 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21115947 Leukemia http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15454482 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16139274 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14692532 Cannabis partially/fully induced cancer cell death http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12130702 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19457575 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18615640 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17931597 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18438336 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19916793 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18387516 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15453094 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19229996 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9771884 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18339876 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12133838 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16596790 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269508 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15958274 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19425170 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17202146 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11903061 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15451022 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20336665 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19394652 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11106791 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19189659 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16500647 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19539619 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19059457 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16909207 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18088200 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10913156 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18354058 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19189054 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17934890 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16571653 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19889794 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15361550 Translocation-positive rhabdomyosarcomahttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19509271 Lymphoma http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18546271 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16936228 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16337199 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19609004 Cannabis kills cancer cells http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16818634 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12648025 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17952650 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16835997 Melanomahttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17065222 Thyroid carcinomahttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18197164 Colon cancer http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18938775 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19047095 Intestinal inflammation and cancerhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19442536 Cannabinoids in health and diseasehttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18286801 Cannabis inhibits cancer cell invasionhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19914218 Creative Commons Love&Light:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUVITH SITH Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 yeah i'm bored so i will just let you think you've won me over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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