logboy Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 could well have been explained and answered around here numerous times before, but... spent a good decade out of the loop on music. suppose SAW 85-92 attracted me initially, all those years back, but the output varied from there on in. never found warp material, and relatively obvious surrounding music, went near that stuff stylisitically, that often; suppose LFO was closest, 808 state always impressed me with more dance-oriented takes on that warm, stark, intelligent, measured sound. what else did though? i don't think it's an impossible Q to answer, but i'm not sure where the answers are myself. quite attracted to the idea of deep chord / techno / dubstep (instrumental stuff) / and other things that often seem to be drifting around. who are the best exponents of minimalist house-tinged, techno-like, drifting, cinematic, thoughtful, layered, dark, beautiful electronic pieces? what are the labels and the genres to look into? i listen to snippets at places like boomkat and don't quite sense who does the best work that might suit my taste for accessible structures with deep long-term effects? w ho should i take a taster of? all help and pointers appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benedict Cumberbatch Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 WISP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascdi Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 The 808 State reissues are dope as hell, but I don't think they are a very minimal band at all. Perhaps circa Newbuild but once you get to the ZZT albums it's much more maximal stuff with like 12 copies of Bjork per song and shit. I think Deepchord is pretty boring in general, you might as well wring every last drop of enjoyment out of Basic Channel & related projects before getting into their modern imitators, in my opinion. If you want lush warm drifty stuff you probably want something like Gas or Vladislav Delay or something. Which in my mind isn't really all that "minimal" (I usually think more of that term applying more to stuff like Raster-Noton, SND, Ryoji Ikeda than lush or "warm" sounds). And this is all apart from what the techno heads think of as "Minimal" with a capital M which I take it is some kind of minimal techno sort of aesthetic like Ricardo Villalobos or something. Which, again, doesn't sound exactly like what you want; that stuff is more pure percussion kind of minimal. That said, it has been a good couple years for reissues of (M)inimal techno .. stuff like Studio 1, "Minimal Nation", BCD-2, Concept 1 and all the Plastikman budget represses, etc. EDIT: Oh and while sound-wise it's pretty different, I always felt that Drexciya's later "Storm Series" was similar to SAW85-92 in like, the vibe. That sort of loose-limbed soulful vibe. Nothing wrong with a little Drexciya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascdi Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Thinner netlabel has also been rocking my world lately in terms of capital-M Minimal techno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidphakist Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 +1 for Thinner...been tuning in there since 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsaicin Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Gas Stars of the Lid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCONES TO DIE FOR Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 who are the best exponents of minimalist house-tinged, techno-like, drifting, cinematic, thoughtful, layered, dark, beautiful electronic pieces? Check out the album "We are Monster" by Isolee. It's from a few years back, but it's incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logboy Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share Posted December 28, 2009 good starting points there. need time to through these, and still want more ;) btw, tried latest wisp album & didn't find any reward in it. too reminiscent of 90s output I followed at the time. ten to like extremes, so SND could be great, but too minimal, bit colder than i would want most if the time. best minimalism I've heard recently was perhaps one or two pinch tracks. 2562 sounds good, but dubstep in general shows potential & not success for me. soundtracks to "Jesse James" & "let the right one in" are stunning forms of minimalism with warmth and layered character, melody. what about reload albums? house stuff that might shows origins of what more directly inspired SAW; but more modern takes on that style? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springymajig Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I assume you're familiar with Orbital's output? Probably not the most minimal but it seems like something you might like... In Sides is generally considered their best, but Orbital 2 (brown album) and Snivilisation (my personal favourite) are also very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 http://rooftopaccess.bandcamp.com/album/the-usual-bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsaicin Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 I assume you're familiar with Orbital's output? Probably not the most minimal but it seems like something you might like... In Sides is generally considered their best, but Orbital 2 (brown album) and Snivilisation (my personal favourite) are also very good. Yeah In Sides is the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 well, it depends what your definition of minimalism is - i mean these are all minimalist (and all tracks i love) and as different as chalk and cheese. the word minimal is a fucking woeful name for a musical genre http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwxKtr5nF7Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTsEsOzStSg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Enter a new display name Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 The best album that I would consider very minimal is "Stdio" by SND. http://www.discogs.com/Snd-Stdio/release/21422 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springymajig Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 well, it depends what your definition of minimalism is - i mean these are all minimalist (and all tracks i love) and as different as chalk and cheese. the word minimal is a fucking woeful name for a musical genre Well considering he's after stuff like 808 state and SAW I don't think Steve Reich is really that appropriate but of course Steve Reich is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logboy Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 yep, I was buying orbital as it was released. never liked in sides. to reitterate, I'm trying to avoid the over-complicated and find the stuff that collectively serves as inspiration for SAW; and then the stuff that follows on from that material that been released over the last decade or two. minimalism is a terrible idea, but I think there's lots to be said for melody, imagination and accessibility without being too bloody minded about creating a puzzle. that is, because it seems "simple" doesn't mean it has nothing but simple ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsaicin Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 SAW 85-92 isn't minimalist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 yep, I was buying orbital as it was released. never liked in sides. to reitterate, I'm trying to avoid the over-complicated and find the stuff that collectively serves as inspiration for SAW; and then the stuff that follows on from that material that been released over the last decade or two. minimalism is a terrible idea, but I think there's lots to be said for melody, imagination and accessibility without being too bloody minded about creating a puzzle. that is, because it seems "simple" doesn't mean it has nothing but simple ideas. cluster - sowiesoso harmonia - musik von harmonia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logboy Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 SAW 85-92 isn't minimalist not as desperately minimalist as some, but far more confident in minimal expression that any drill n bass output - which, coincidentally, i still like, but not as much. i think GAS hits the spot. stars of lid are potentially spot-on too. might order a couple of those now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Rhythm & Sound - http://www.myspace.com/burialmix Opiate - http://www.myspace.com/thomasknak System - http://www.myspace.com/cphsystem Try some of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logboy Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share Posted December 29, 2009 ordered 3 "stars of the lid" to kick me off. "refinement of the decline", "tired sounds of" and "carte-de visite". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 It don't get more 'minimalist' then this.... http://www.discogs.com/Steinbr%C3%BCchel-Skizzen/release/347920 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsaicin Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 ordered 3 "stars of the lid" to kick me off. "refinement of the decline", "tired sounds of" and "carte-de visite". Haven't heard carte de viste, but tired sounds and refinement are spectacular. Now you have to order Nah und Fern and you're set for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 im starting to absolutely love alva noto....check him out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candiru Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 The Black Dog - Radio Scarecrow You'd dig it heavily I bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 if you feel like digging deeper into the classicambientronic direction of SotL, check out johann johannson or max richter. or porn sword tobacco although that's a bit different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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