KyonPalm Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Apologies if this is jazz, but I've always wondered, what year was each track from SAW 85-92 made in? 1985 to 1992 is a big difference in the music scene, as I'm sure you know, so to know what year he made each song would help me understand them better. I've got some vague ideas which I will post at the bottom. Also, if someone like Joyrex could tell some more interesting tidbits about the album like the whole "Tha" being the second part of his girlfriend's name thing, it'd be much appreciated. I never knew that. Anyway, my ideas... Xtal: 1985 Tha: 1989 Pulsewidth: 1988 Ageispolis: 1988 i: 1990 Green Calx: 1988 Heliosphan: 1987 We Are The Music Makers: 1986 Schottkey 7th Path: 1989 Ptolemy: 1988 Hedphelym: 1990 Delphium: 1989 Actium: 1990 As you can see, I'm not too sure what could stretch it to '92... possibly "i" if I had to guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 Well Xtal samples Opus 3 - "It's A Fine Day" and that was released in 1992, so yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I think most of the songs on the album are re-works of early demos. Probably recorded the album between 90-92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyonPalm Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 Well Xtal samples Opus 3 - "It's A Fine Day" and that was released in 1992, so yeah... Ah, really? Wasn't aware of that... I suppose I'm as off as I can be there, then, haha. And YO303, I think he probably used as much original material as possible... possibly none of it was re-recorded. I say that given the awful quality instantly recognizable as cassette tape hiss and distortion. I imagine he used better quality reels and stuff for his later works say, by the late '80s, but the quality on some of the tracks isn't quite right for that... I could be wrong, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 IIRC Richie has said that 'i' is the oldest track on there, but I'm not sure of the order of any of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ando Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I like how nothing on your list goes past 1990 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I don't think he was making those tracks when he was 14 years old. I think that is bullshit. I think he was making music at that age, but probably not anything he has ever released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 still, for 1985, 86, 87, these are amazing tunes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak of the week Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I don't think he was making those tracks when he was 14 years old. I think that is bullshit. I think he was making music at that age, but probably not anything he has ever released. From this page: http://rdj.moto-coda...aq/afxfaq26.txt " "Where was _Surfing On Sine Waves_ recorded?" The Polygon Window LP was written entirely in the deep south west of Cornwall between 1986 and 1989 apart from "Quoth" and "If It Really Is Me," which were updated due to a spillage of orange juice on the master tapes. The tracks were created in the Llanerlog studios. The studios are set close to the coast where the cover photos were taken. " Personally I wouldn't be surprised if that's true. Also, Mike Paradinas stated somewhere, if my memory serves me correctly, that RDJ started making music (or at least started trying to make music) when he was 12 (or 11). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak of the week Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 From wikipedia: "According to musician Benjamin Middleton, James started producing music at the age of 12." Think whatever you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 well we could all say that. i used to make my own silly radio shows with my brother when i was 8 or 9... and record and loop stuff off the radio, and sing along to The Troggs... so what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I thought it was pretty widely understood that he made those dates up just to seem cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak of the week Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 well we could all say that. i used to make my own silly radio shows with my brother when i was 8 or 9... and record and loop stuff off the radio, and sing along to The Troggs... so what. So nothing. I am personally not bothered with how old was RDJ when he made SAW85-92 or SOSW, as long as music is that good. I just wrote what other (famous) people said, not that it is any guarantee of the truth. Also, in the interview I attached to this post, RDJ said that (in 1993.) some stuff from Ambient Works was around four to five years old. Maybe he made that up. Fine. Doesn't matter really. We'll never probably have any actual evidence of him producing the music at those times, anyway. We might speculate about this for ages. That doesn't change the fact that the music is great. That's eventually only thing that's important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Good scan, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak of the week Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Good scan, thanks! I downloaded the images from WATMM (I believe) years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinski Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 hey, let's close watmm. i mean the music is good, why talk about it? srly gies. anyway, great article! thanks. makes me miss my dx7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ooze Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 THIS THREAD hey but here is something sweet i found OMG IZ DA SAME ROBOBt!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Good scan, thanks! agreed. thanks for the scan man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeB Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Well Xtal samples Opus 3 - "It's A Fine Day" and that was released in 1992, so yeah... The same track that Orbital sampled in Halcyon + On + On? I love the lush timbre Kirsty Hawkshaw sings that in... Am I the only one obsessive enough to pay a session singer to sing original vocals for her instead of sampling other people's songs, then? (Not to mention The Future Sound of London sampling Mary Hopkin's vocal from Rachel's Song...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinski Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Well Xtal samples Opus 3 - "It's A Fine Day" and that was released in 1992, so yeah... The same track that Orbital sampled in Halcyon + On + On? I love the lush timbre Kirsty Hawkshaw sings that in... Am I the only one obsessive enough to pay a session singer to sing original vocals for her instead of sampling other people's songs, then? (Not to mention The Future Sound of London sampling Mary Hopkin's vocal from Rachel's Song...) most musicians would rather save the money and buy drugs or faders. i mean, both are as important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoeB Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 most musicians would rather save the money and buy drugs or faders. i mean, both are as important. It just seems like a false economy, you either have to pay royalties or risk getting sued. That and you don't have any artistic control over how the sample sounds if you didn't commission it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinski Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 i don't really follow your last sentence. but let's not turn this into another boring discussion about making our own music. i mean, nobody cares. unless you're richard, then fire away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Stupid thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ooze Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Stupid thread we need more dates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Richard's mother knew he was going to be a musician, so she built a mini-studio inside her uterus. Songs recorded during that era will be relased later this year as "Selected Uterus Works: December 1970 - August 1971" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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