Friendly Foil Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Move along people, nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 from the article: Scientists said the "unprecedented" melting took place over a larger area than has been detected in three decades of satellite observation. what does this really mean? im not an idiot, I believe in global warming, but is this the real deal or just a random anomaly that we might not have a complete grip on yet? also on the exact same page: Melting events of this type occur about once every 150 years on average. With the last one happening in 1889, this event is right on time. -Lora Koenig, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center It means they havent a fucking clue what it means. They're clearly going to have to spend a bit more time looking over it before a reasonable cause can be established. The "unprecedented" is in reference to the satellite monitoring which is obviously far more accurate then some lad in 1889 saying "shit, all the ice melted". Its a bit hard to properly compare two pieces of evidence with such a wide variance in accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schlucharski Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 the observated timeinterval is too short to draw the conclusion that global warming is our fault. global warming, fine, we're doomed, but its not our fault. yay. *jumps in his big block suv and drives to mc donalds* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 so basically this could mean absolutely anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 so basically this could mean absolutely anything. Or nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 OR EVERYTHING THE CIE CAPS ARE MADE OF HIGGS BOSOM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Yesterday it fucking lashed rain while also being as humid and hot as fuck as possible. Fuck the earth. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 it's all propaganda... i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 In february we (UK) were warned that we would be facing a summer of hosepipe bans until August due to droughts if we did not have 3 months of continual rain. This was down to a particularly dry winter. We got hosepipe bans starting in April, and pretty much straight away it started fucking raining properly. We had a fuckton of rain, everywhere flooded, and the hosepipe bans were lifted early. The jetstream was blamed (same as in 2007 when we last had masses of floods). Now we are back to a nice hot sunny spell, just in time for everyone at the Olympics to drink all of the water our reservoirs have saved up. I predict another hosepipe ban in August if the sun stays? The climate is fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Everyone should read this: http://m.rollingstone.com/?redirurl=/politics/news/global-warmings-terrifying-new-math-20120719 tl;dr we are fucked 5 times over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 In february we (UK) were warned that we would be facing a summer of hosepipe bans until August due to droughts if we did not have 3 months of continual rain. This was down to a particularly dry winter. We got hosepipe bans starting in April, and pretty much straight away it started fucking raining properly. We had a fuckton of rain, everywhere flooded, and the hosepipe bans were lifted early. The jetstream was blamed (same as in 2007 when we last had masses of floods). Now we are back to a nice hot sunny spell, just in time for everyone at the Olympics to drink all of the water our reservoirs have saved up. I predict another hosepipe ban in August if the sun stays? The climate is fucked. nah. it's due to piss down again this weekend, with thunder 'n lightning 'n all, this Friday, just in time for the Olympics! hahahahaha this last week, and tomorrow, will probably be it for this summer i reckon. unless we get another mini week-long heatwave again in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I'm starting to think global warming is the new "atom bomb" thing. 4point explanation: 1. I believe the earth is getting warmer 2. I believe humans need to drastically cut down on carbon emissions, and begin treating the earth with utmost care. 3. I'm not sure man is the cause of this heating up (despite my anger) 4. I'm pretty sure droughts such as this have happened in the past, often. This isn't some new thing, maybe by a small amount. I recall "record high temperatures" as a kid, routine 95 degree weather in the summer. If anything, the past 3 summers were cooler than the ones I remember from being a kid. therefor I'm not convinced, and quite frankly all I ever see are people chanting about how global warming is real, and anyone who disagrees is a Republican. however, i've never really heard anyone explain the science, which leads me to conclude that nobody actually knows what they're talking about. then again this winter was really wierd. basically skipped from fall to spring. the plants confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I'm pretty sure moving away from an unsustainable fossil fuel driven economy is a good thing, regardless of whether or not its responsible for wrecking the planet. We'll end up killing ourselves before the planet become inhabitable anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 And by WE you mean future generations. By the time the whole shithouse goes up in flames most of us will be dead. Don't have kids, relax and enjoy the warm weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4d0 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 chemtrails make global warming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 i think it's little goblins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I'm going to get everyone to buy a Prius with a gay little song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Also, this might help: http://graphics.latimes.com/towergraphic-la-me-solar-desert-tg/ I bet it will get fucked over by oil company lawyers, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneToThirtySix Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Bring on the night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 however, i've never really heard anyone explain the science, which leads me to conclude that nobody actually knows what they're talking about. There are many scientists who would be happy to explain it to you, as long as you're ok with actually trying to understand science. Because it's climate fucking science. It's not climate plumbing, so don't ask a plumber. It's not climate banking, or climate journalism, it's climate fucking science. Maybe you would like to start with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change? And not even the summary for policymakers, but the actual assessment reports? Not huffington post, not fox news, not greenpeace, not Joe the Plumber, not Obama, not Romney, not me. SCIENTISTS. Fucking magnets. You not understanding does not mean it's not real. Some pundit not understanding doesn't mean it's not real. That guy from Coast to Coast thinking it's going to be just like The Day After Tomorrow but with aliens does not mean it's not real A damn near scientific consensus among scientists not working for the oil industry is, on the other hand, not a thing at which to sneeze. But not everything can be easily reduced. Climate science involves some pretty obvious forcing mechanisms (and they are ridiculously obvious), but also some very chaotic systems, and that means it's not something you can explain in a 30 second sound byte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 We'll probably get hit by a giant asteroid (or get hit by a giant nebula explosion) before climate change affect us. True story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Franklin Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 this is a very interesting bit from that Rolling Stones article posted above, "Not long ago (2009), the United States Chamber of Commerce even filed a brief with the EPA urging the agency not to regulate carbon – should the world's scientists turn out to be right and the planet heats up, the Chamber advised, "populations can acclimatize to warmer climates via a range of behavioral, physiological and technological adaptations." As radical goes, demanding that we change our physiology seems right up there." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 dinosaurs 4 lyfe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 however, i've never really heard anyone explain the science, which leads me to conclude that nobody actually knows what they're talking about. There are many scientists who would be happy to explain it to you, as long as you're ok with actually trying to understand science. Because it's climate fucking science. It's not climate plumbing, so don't ask a plumber. It's not climate banking, or climate journalism, it's climate fucking science. Maybe you would like to start with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change? And not even the summary for policymakers, but the actual assessment reports? Not huffington post, not fox news, not greenpeace, not Joe the Plumber, not Obama, not Romney, not me. SCIENTISTS. Fucking magnets. You not understanding does not mean it's not real. Some pundit not understanding doesn't mean it's not real. That guy from Coast to Coast thinking it's going to be just like The Day After Tomorrow but with aliens does not mean it's not real A damn near scientific consensus among scientists not working for the oil industry is, on the other hand, not a thing at which to sneeze. But not everything can be easily reduced. Climate science involves some pretty obvious forcing mechanisms (and they are ridiculously obvious), but also some very chaotic systems, and that means it's not something you can explain in a 30 second sound byte. best post in thread. thank fuck you threw down mighty like you just did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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