J3FF3R00 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 So, tonight, I went to a drum and bass club night in Hollywood. I'd been wanting to check it out for a while now. I didn't think such things still existed. After living in NYC for so long, my impression was that it had faded and died out or that it had just morphed into dubstep, entirely. I was relieved to find there was a strictly dnb night. The turnout was huge, too. Sad thing is, it was boring. I'm such a huge dnb/jungle fan, but after around 98 or 99, I stopped buying new 12"s because it seemed to be taboo for producers to use the amen break. Everything was 2-step or watered-down Tech-step. Apparently, it's still the same shit. Every dj tonight spun tracks that had good bass, but boring/repetitive drum lines. Gone are the days (indeed) of flary, complex drum patterns. I'm sure there are still people making good jungle (like Current Value), but what the fuck is up with the lack of creativity on production and the abstinence of using the Amen? I swear, it's been the same for 13 years now. Why do producers/djs insist on playing repetitive tracks and building up to an inevitable moment where there is no real payoff in the break? I'm sorry. The shit is sad. I miss good jungle. What the fuck is wrong with people? I'm disappointed. Help me understand, watmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Good thing we still have Pendulum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 dgoHn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr.Sensi Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Some of us still write it, man, and a few old school guys are still at, i.e Paradox. Check out Equinox, Dub One, Ricky Force, Tim Reaper, Vocoda, Dwarde. I'm sure there are plenty more to check out that I can't think of or don't know. I'm sure you can find plenty of stuff in their soundcloud links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 There still being released some good DnB every once in a while. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WulyiPlsPyQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjX2lt74ANA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYWMeS6LMzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Lare Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 No word about the new generation http://youtu.be/C_MUO6XNhdE http://youtu.be/UNeMGqOZtUA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jasondonervan Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Gone are the days (indeed) of flary, complex drum patterns.I'm sure there are still people making good jungle (like Current Value), but what the fuck is up with the lack of creativity on production and the abstinence of using the Amen? I've been getting into more complex drum programming myself lately, and I've been using drum & bass as a practice ground. I'm very fortunate to have a friend who is a demon with programming patterns, and he's a big fan of old skool jungle/dnb. We've been sending some samples and MIDI tracks back and forth. He tinkers around in Reason, me on an MPC. It's very much student and the master, with me most definitely the student. He has so much knowledge, I get annoyed that he's never released anything! He's just not that interested in doing it, and I guess with the current commercial viability of dnb (or any music for that matter) it's not something he's hugely bothered about pursuing. Back in the 90s/early 00s, you couldn't move for dnb/jungle nights round here (Bristol, UK), it was a breeding ground for producers. Things have moved on here, obviously dubstep was doing it's thing years ago, but that has moved on too. Even years ago, most producers round these parts didn't want to be pigeon-holed as doing dubstep and would rather remain uncategorised, even before the likes of Skrillex became the posterboy for dubstep. Is original-style dubstep classed as 'bass music' now? I see that term come up and shudder... but then, I do that with most genre labels! tl;dr - most folks just don't care for dnb anymore *sadface* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkreso Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 You can't really blame artists for not wanting to work within the framework of old school styles. Any creative person wants to find their own style, and mostly that involves moving away from established norms, even if the result may sometimes be inferior. I think there's enough old school jungle/dnb around that one couldn't even listen to it all in a lifetime, you just need to find a DJ that likes to mix that sort of material. Disclaimer: I'm personally very sympathetic to what little I've heard of the new sound of DnB, although without mentioning any names it's hard to say if we're thinking about the same sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yikes Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 REMARC BIZZY B SOUNDMURDERER still play that real schitt LIVE Mark killed it in nyc in the spring but you gotta go to the UK to ear it all the time jeff you need to start your own night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 I was going to recommend anything off of the Subtle Audio label.... like dgohn/macc etc... the two compilations they have out are pretty good too. amen-y goodness. They seem to be keeping it real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 REMARC BIZZY B SOUNDMURDERER still play that real schitt LIVE Mark killed it in nyc in the spring but you gotta go to the UK to ear it all the time jeff you need to start your own night Are there any new releases from Remarc or Bizzy B since their Planet Mu releases?! Or just live shows? They've got some nice breaks, heavy shit... No pink butterfly two step diva dnb.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphex_Squarepusher_Twin Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Pendulum (--> Reese Bass, not a specific technic with bass but rather the degree of treatment of distortion & filtering used on a sample of bass, interesting...) dgoHn A Guy Called Gerald Shy FX RENE LA VICE Spectrasoul Noisia Netsky Loadstar &... forgot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 http://youtu.be/UNeMGqOZtUA D Bridge was actually headlining at the DNB night I was at last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 The main thing I like about new drum and bass is the snares. And I'm not gonna lie, I fucking love super-melodic dnb: That's like god damn supercharged demoscene music or something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Also, these sentences puzzled me: I'm sure there are still people making good jungle (like Current Value), but what the fuck is up with the lack of creativity on production and the abstinence of using the Amen? I swear, it's been the same for 13 years now. Seriously, fuck the amen break. It's been done to absolute fucking death. Move on, people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 The main thing I like about new drum and bass is the snares. And I'm not gonna lie, I fucking love super-melodic dnb: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lErGorDe9rE That's like god damn supercharged demoscene music or something! Nah, dnb is supposed to be SUPER SERIOUS!!!! You can't have silly melodies or cheesy samples! No way, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesomeperson Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 http://soundcloud.com/sixteenarmedjack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesomeperson Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Shy FX, T-Power, Aphrodite and the lot all went 2-step garbage, shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLA FUR BIS FLE Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted August 11, 2012 Author Share Posted August 11, 2012 Also, these sentences puzzled me: I'm sure there are still people making good jungle (like Current Value), but what the fuck is up with the lack of creativity on production and the abstinence of using the Amen? I swear, it's been the same for 13 years now. Seriously, fuck the amen break. It's been done to absolute fucking death. Move on, people! You are entitled to you own opinion, even if it is dead wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 No word about the new generation http://youtu.be/C_MUO6XNhdE http://youtu.be/UNeMGqOZtUA Fucking lol D-Brigde has made some decent tunes though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 The youtube channel, lololol: http://www.youtube.com/user/designandbass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 http://opposide.bandcamp.com/track/cyberworm-sporaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindphaser Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I`m not on the ball at all when it comes to Drum & Bass, but I`ve enjoyed these recently. http://33recordings....et-middle-line/ http://deadcenter.ba...n-abstraction-2 http://www.ektoplazm.com/style/psydnb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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