Lane Visitor Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 How cool would it be if someone started this- an electronic / dance label that put out only wax, disc and tapes, and said fuck the bandcamp/itunes deal? i feel like this would be cool for the house / garage / disco resurgence in general. i mean even people uploading the releases through vinyl rips (or tape/cd) onto youtube would have a more legit feel to it then just typical bandcamp/itunes, etc digital sound anyway.. with all of the dubby, gritty, texturized and warmer dance stuff coming out lately, this seems like a no-brainer... i guess it would just take someone with some extra money laying around to spend eh.. but then again, i feel like those formats are back.. let's go all out here with physical, whose with me? i really think it would be most ideal and logical reaction to alll the samey cold big room / progressive cookie cutter edm beatport crap that's been flooding through for so long now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 so, Rephlex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Visitor Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 id also be curious to know.. anyone recommend any good house labels that do a lotta vinyl pressings? tapes or cds? i wanna hear some grooves in analog damnit so, Rephlex? ya for real! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I think this would just attract the people who already buy CDs and vinyl and annoy those who prefer digital tbh, as well as limit your exposure... I doubt that going physical only would make much of a difference in this day and age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 a few people i know on SC are doing pretty well with the vinyl-only model: http://noorden.org/llm002/ https://soundcloud.com/salt-mines/salt001-va i don't see the harm in offering digi too, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Visitor Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 I think this would just attract the people who already buy CDs and vinyl and annoy those who prefer digital tbh, as well as limit your exposure... I doubt that going physical only would make much of a difference in this day and age i dont know man.. i think there a lot more physical-release fetishists than people think... i just think itd be a cool experiment if anything. like maybe even a sub-division of a label can do like a series of physical-only releases. o0f course vinyl and tape speak for themselves, but i was even just listening to a cd in the car other day and was totally hearing the difference vs high qual mp3 or wav, but for many styles of music, cd sounds so much better/fuller to me. something about that laser maaann lol but youre also talking to someone whose obsessed with discogs.com and the physical aspect a few people i know on SC are doing pretty well with the vinyl-only model: http://noorden.org/llm002/ https://soundcloud.com/salt-mines/salt001-va i don't see the harm in offering digi too, though ooh thanks for the heads up man.. going to lisetn to that now.. and yeah - def, i dig it when labels do both. guess i would just like to see more attention paid to physical. and also more dance djs playing vinyl/cd. edit: oh that track is dopey! thats exactly what im looking for/talking about! love all this vinyl-y acidy garage stuff.. would be fun to see a resurgence of jungle too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caze Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I think this would just attract the people who already buy CDs and vinyl and annoy those who prefer digital tbh, as well as limit your exposure... I doubt that going physical only would make much of a difference in this day and age don't see why it would annoy anyone, they'd just torrent it or whatever, enough fetishists around to make money off it if you were smart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 thats exactly what im looking for/talking about! love all this vinyl-y acidy garage stuff.. would be fun to see a resurgence of jungle too. https://soundcloud.com/futers/junkie https://soundcloud.com/vltra/timelord https://soundcloud.com/vltra/recording-4-6-15 there is more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkreso Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 People already do this all the time in house/techno. Usually it's very strongly advertised in web shops with "vinyl only!", as if it's a sign of quality or something. Still, some of it pretty good. But not any more often than for digitally available music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Visitor Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 People already do this all the time in house/techno. Usually it's very strongly advertised in web shops with "vinyl only!", as if it's a sign of quality or something. Still, some of it pretty good. But not any more often than for digitally available music. Nice! Have any recommendations for house labels that press vinyl that you like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Visitor Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 ooh how did i miss this? a new global communication remix (: https://bleep.com/release/65114-dusky-skin-deep-global-communication-remix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 People already do this all the time in house/techno. Usually it's very strongly advertised in web shops with "vinyl only!", as if it's a sign of quality or something. Still, some of it pretty good. But not any more often than for digitally available music. Nice! Have any recommendations for house labels that press vinyl that you like? i kind of feel like you are trolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkreso Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 People already do this all the time in house/techno. Usually it's very strongly advertised in web shops with "vinyl only!", as if it's a sign of quality or something. Still, some of it pretty good. But not any more often than for digitally available music. Nice! Have any recommendations for house labels that press vinyl that you like? I don't really follow house music as closely as techno, but here are some labels that seem to be popular: Giegling Traumprinz Aniara White Material Sushitech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 How cool would it be if someone started this- an electronic / dance label that put out only wax, disc and tapes, and said fuck the bandcamp/itunes deal? i feel like this would be cool for the house / garage / disco resurgence in general. there are some tape labels that don't do mp3 downloads but tbh I can't think of any off the top of my head, at least ones that are electronic/dance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Visitor Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 People already do this all the time in house/techno. Usually it's very strongly advertised in web shops with "vinyl only!", as if it's a sign of quality or something. Still, some of it pretty good. But not any more often than for digitally available music. Nice! Have any recommendations for house labels that press vinyl that you like? i kind of feel like you are trolling No trolling lol.. I guess i just needed a lil reminder that good dance labels that press vinyl still exist .. Sometimes i can get lost in the bandcamp / beatport / soundcloud realm Also i just went on bleep after posting this thread and discovered a fuck ton of good dance stuff / labels.. Have discovered stuff on there various times before, just been too long.. Still would be cool of rephlex opened back up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weakmassive Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I've been thinking about this stuff lately.. about the different ways to "release" music these days and how that alters the way it's perceived. Do you try to release through a label? Or on Bandcamp for free or for $? - digital or physical? Just dump everything on Soundcloud?I do get the sense that vinyl-only labels tend to piss people off. Whenever a release is announced on WATMM as vinyl-only people keep asking about digital (EDM series, that DMX Krew album on Fundamental Records, etc).I'm also not sure about using some sort of physical object fetishism to sell records. I've got caught up in it… I've got a few tapes that I've played once and just listen to the digital files because they are way more convenient and sound better. When it becomes more about collecting than the actual music, that seems like a problem. But I also see how it can be fun. I was just thinking about doing a tape release today since I have some gritty house-y tunes that might work pretty well on that format, so.. yeah I'm conflicted about this stuff.Another angle would be to abandon any physical media, but still create some physical thing that can compliment the music. For example, for a bit extra $ you can get digital downloads plus a book or t-shirt…something more interesting than a cassette tape that will just sit on the shelf in most cases. I think Occult Research has a good model. They do limited edition cassettes that are cheap (not some super expensive vinyl package), but also have the digital downloads for free (mostly). Nearly all of their cassette runs have sold out.https://occultresearch.bandcamp.com/It's not house, but Abstract Forms is a great electro label doing the vinyl-only (no digital) thing.http://www.discogs.com/label/101965-Abstract-Forms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Visitor Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 I've been thinking about this stuff lately.. about the different ways to "release" music these days and how that alters the way it's perceived. Do you try to release through a label? Or on Bandcamp for free or for $? - digital or physical? Just dump everything on Soundcloud? I do get the sense that vinyl-only labels tend to piss people off. Whenever a release is announced on WATMM as vinyl-only people keep asking about digital (EDM series, that DMX Krew album on Fundamental Records, etc). I'm also not sure about using some sort of physical object fetishism to sell records. I've got caught up in it I've got a few tapes that I've played once and just listen to the digital files because they are way more convenient and sound better. When it becomes more about collecting than the actual music, that seems like a problem. But I also see how it can be fun. I was just thinking about doing a tape release today since I have some gritty house-y tunes that might work pretty well on that format, so.. yeah I'm conflicted about this stuff. Another angle would be to abandon any physical media, but still create some physical thing that can compliment the music. For example, for a bit extra $ you can get digital downloads plus a book or t-shirtsomething more interesting than a cassette tape that will just sit on the shelf in most cases. I think Occult Research has a good model. They do limited edition cassettes that are cheap (not some super expensive vinyl package), but also have the digital downloads for free (mostly). Nearly all of their cassette runs have sold out. https://occultresearch.bandcamp.com/ It's not house, but Abstract Forms is a great electro label doing the vinyl-only (no digital) thing. http://www.discogs.com/label/101965-Abstract-Forms Well said! Checking out Occult Research now.. This is some truly fresh and super cool stuff. Magick Nights by Wav Fuzz is so good. Loving this fusion of acid house, chillout and touches of darkwave. Definitely gonna be following this label and will check the other label too. Thanks for the tip (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 ^ check out our very own Face Culler's Lostlands too! Solid release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Visitor Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 ^ check out our very own Face Culler's Lostlands too! Solid release. Ok will do! Listening to: https://occultresearch.bandcamp.com/album/ur-ver-andi-skuld right now... Unreal!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Not offering digitals in 2015 is pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarion Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I'm quite happy when labels offer bonus tracks exclusive to a physical release. These tracks will still be digitally available (everybody rips them) but it provides an extra bonus for people who are enthusiastic enough about the label to shell out the cash without hurting the casual punter, or the person who might just want the damn single. I also have nothing against vinyl-only labels IF they have decent snippets to give a listen. 22a is a label that does this, and I've been happy to buy from them because there's no buying blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purlieu Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I think L.I.E.S. only got a Bandcamp relatively recently, they're a pretty safe port of call for analog dance stuff: https://soundcloud.com/l-i-e-s/45-acp-ground-to-ground-lies https://soundcloud.com/l-i-e-s/lipelis-weirdshit-xu-paelk-w https://soundcloud.com/l-i-e-s/lies-027-5-burning-sulfur-eqd There used to be a lot of tape labels who only offered cassettes, fewer these days although ((Cave)) are a great example of one who still do it - their stuff is often lo-fi, sludgy experimental stuff, so it really suits the format. Nothing dancey on there however. I have all my ((Cave)) stuff digitised from tape on my iPod. Opal Tapes' vinyl sub-label Black Opal didn't used to be on Bandcamp but it's been subsumed into the main Opal BC page now. Another great label for lo-fi rhythmic vibes though: https://opaltapes.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 1080p, Opal Tapes, and Obsolete Future are all good but they offer mp3s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 here's one that just started that i'm on https://bokharirecords.bandcamp.com/album/swamp-tapes-001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Visitor Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 here's one that just started that i'm on https://bokharirecords.bandcamp.com/album/swamp-tapes-001 Whoa congrats man! tasteful stuff as always shea (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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