awepittance Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I'm willing to give it another go in 24fps but i don't think it's ever going to measure up to the original LOTR trilogy for me unfortunately. . I hope the next 2 films are less haphazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd syside Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Have you seen it at 24fps? First viewing I was confident it was worse than the original trilogy... but overall I'm thinking the critics have got it all wrong. The Hobbit is more fantasy and magical than any of the LOTR films. Bilbo is far better than Frodo/Sam, Gollum was more alive and real, the scenery was dense as fuck thanks to the 3D. The music was a little bit disappointing but less so second viewing (was expecting more varied/new tracks first viewing). The intro with the prologue should be cut off and when Bilbo splits up with the gang we should stay with Bilbo rather than the ridiculous action sequence. The Radagast cut away where he saves the animal shit should be cut as well. But despite this the characters were less annoying than "Mr. Frodo!" monologues and stuff and the universe felt more fantasy. Was less serious and therefore a bit more childlike and fun for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBLA Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 One of the dwarves looked like Skytree! Saw it... Liked it... Have no idea what you guys are talking about with all these numbers and shit... nor I care! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maus Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 just got back from seeing the 48 version at the malco paradiso in memphis. went in with an open mind, and i have to say it didn't bother me as much as i thought it might. there were a few moments that looked more video-like than others but on the whole it didn't really distract too terribly. i'm still not sure what the benefit is, and most certainly don't find it to be the revolutionary step in filmmaking that jackson and jannard seem to be pimping it as, but to each their own. other than that... my girlfriend was particularly irked that we sat through nearly 3 hours of (admittedly beautiful) film only to get no ending. i more or less knew that myself, but feel that it could have been trimmed down a hell of a lot. i'm also probably too jaded to watch a bunch of adults say things like "the mountains of ooogdork" and "the great castle of shmiggins in the time of horpfuck" and whatnot. those issues aside, gollum's expressions during the 'riddle battle' were some of the best, most expressive and "human" CGI moments i've ever seen. hopefully disney rings up WETA if they decide to try making a fake kevin flynn again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 so what's your take on the 'video' look, do you think of the hobbit was made on that special 48fps 35mm it would resemble video as it does now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I understand now why Del Toro declined doing the Hobbit..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maus Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 so what's your take on the 'video' look, do you think of the hobbit was made on that special 48fps 35mm it would resemble video as it does now? i'm not sure, as i've never seen 48fps film stuff, to my recollection. technically speaking i don't think it'd make that much of a difference, as the cadence of motion pictures should be the same, theoretically, when shot at the same framerate whether digital or film. we might have seen a touch more artifacting (or so i'd imagine) from film whipping through a camera at that speed, which would negate the idea behind 48fps... but even if not, the dynamic range, colour reproduction and so on should be fairly identical, so i personally don't believe it'd look too different on film vs. digital. it's remarkable, actually, how few movies are shot on film these days. if you have any interest in the subject, there's actually a pretty interesting documentary called 'side by side' (hosted by keanu reeves, oddly enough) that has interviews with various directors / DPs and so on discussing the difference between film and digital, and how it's changing the industry. i'd like to see portions of the hobbit again at 24p, just to see how different it feels. but i'm sure as shite not going to sit through the whole fucking thing again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theSun Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 watched the 24 fps version. as a big fan of tolkien and the lotr movies, i think this was just too much for me. it felt as if the movie was essentially about the action scenes. azog was terrible, he might as well have been a decepticon. fat goblin king was even worse and his comic relief was just.... yuck. the rock golems randomly fighting was nauseating, especially how all the dwarves come out completely unscathed from such an event. the scene at the end with them falling down into the mountain on that piece of bridge/scaffolding might as well have been pirates of the caribbean. maybe it's just because i didn't like the movie as much overall, but even gandalf seemed less alive than lotr gandalf. gollum was awesome though. i was amazed at how little i liked the movie and how i didn't care much for gollum in the book, but i loved the gollum scenes in the hobbit. edit - made spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theSun Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 also - fuck me i didn't think azog was actually a character in the book - i guess jackson needed another orc bad guy thing to base the story around. the busta rhymes looking uruk hai in lotr was about x10000 better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I understand now why Del Toro declined doing the Hobbit..... That looks fucking retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Jackson Teller piloting Gundam to fight Godzill and whose AI is GLaDOS. sounds awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I understand now why Del Toro declined doing the Hobbit..... That looks fucking retarded. Transformers 4, yep looks dumb as funk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaarg Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Still, I'd love to see a big robot and monsters and aliens movie, like anime shit and all. This looks like a much better attempt than transformers though it's still off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneToThirtySix Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Weird sidenote: went to see Hobbit, saw preview for next Del Toro film. More than a little disappointed he pussed out on this to do a shitty Evangelion knock-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 i wouldn't really call it pussing out, he moved to new zealand for an entire year to work out the screenplay with PJ and co while the rights for the Hobbit were still in limbo. pretty ballsy move on his part, he took a risk and it didn't end up paying off. In case anyone has forgotten he left the production before the rights were resolved, him thinking that they would be in limbo for much longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneToThirtySix Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Well, then I'm disappointed that he's better suited for the Hobbit than a shitty Evangelion knock-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I've always disliked high-fantasy, but I really enjoyed the LOTR movies.. So my expectations where quite high for this one. But I was slightly disappointed. I had this 'been-there-done-that-feeling' halfway into the movie. But I still enjoyed it, and I'm glad it exists. And I'm sure the sequels will better. And I thought Martin Freeman was perfect for the Bilbo role. It has a 'lighter' tone than the LOTR movies. Which is both a good and a bad thing. But the movies biggest problem is that you never felt there was anything at stake.. or not on the same scale as the LOTR movies. And the action scenes where pretty boring. Favorite scene of the movie was the trolls at the fire place one. That one was pretty great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I understand now why Del Toro declined doing the Hobbit..... That looks fucking retarded. Transformers 4, yep looks dumb as funk. Del Toro does know how to do a good action flick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I will say about that Pacific Rim movie that judging by the trailer it's one of the first giant monster movies in a long time (that I'm aware of) where the giant monsters actually give off that immense thing vibe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneToThirtySix Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 But he usually does well if the story has some kind of mythology backing it. Maybe there's more to the giant monsters, but, for lack of a better word, there doesn't look like much room for the "magic" he's so good at handling. Edit: somehow missed cryptowen's post (which I absolutely agree with), but this was directed at soundwave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Del Toro normally (not counting his smaller-scale better movies like Pan's Labia) gives off this grandiose but cheesy Latin vibe, like the visual equivalent of Mexican Luchador wrestling. He's willing to throw everything at the screen just to entertain the kids (and most of his flicks do seem aimed lower age-wise than other similar directors). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneToThirtySix Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Pan's Labcoat isn't what comes to mind for a children's film, lumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Blade 2 and Hellboy 2 are pretty solid action flicks if a little cheesy in parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Pan's Labcoat isn't what comes to mind for a children's film, lumps. What are you talking about? PEEK-A-BOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneToThirtySix Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 ^ EXACTLY. Also, damn it all to LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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