Meadows and Labyrinths Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 i just ordered some Aperture Science stickers from ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprigg Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 SPAAAAACE WE GOTTA GO TO SPAAAAAAAAAAACE ! ! ! ! ! question for those of you who finished the game: (i don't recommend reading the spoiler if you haven't beaten it yet) did you fire at the moon randomly, or because you remembered that moonrocks were a good portal conductor? :facepalm: I never actually thought about that till just now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 SPAAAAACE WE GOTTA GO TO SPAAAAAAAAAAACE ! ! ! ! ! question for those of you who finished the game: (i don't recommend reading the spoiler if you haven't beaten it yet) did you fire at the moon randomly, or because you remembered that moonrocks were a good portal conductor? I remembered. but it's not like there's much choice either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows and Labyrinths Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I remembered. but it's not like there's much choice either. true, i guess they tried to make it obvious for that fact. i could definitely see some people (myself included) looking around the room at everything but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba69 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 but it basically puts your gun aiming directly at it and it doesn't allow your aim to sway much away from it. Almost forces your hand. But yes, I remembered that moon-rocks thing soon after I shot the portal. I'm the kind of person that obsessively pays attention to dialogue in(most) movies and games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows and Labyrinths Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 ah, i didn't notice that, i just sort of fired as soon as i saw it, didn't think to look around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 but it basically puts your gun aiming directly at it and it doesn't allow your aim to sway much away from it. Almost forces your hand. this is one of my major gripes with the game. it's one of the biggest signs of the game being 'over-simplified' for a 'wider audience' to the same degree that Crysis 2 was, compared to it's predecessor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coalbucket PI Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 I just fired at it stupidly, I actually didn't quite understand what happened right afterwards until I thought about it, durrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 but it basically puts your gun aiming directly at it and it doesn't allow your aim to sway much away from it. Almost forces your hand. this is one of my major gripes with the game. it's one of the biggest signs of the game being 'over-simplified' for a 'wider audience' to the same degree that Crysis 2 was, compared to it's predecessor. yeah and almost every puzzle had subtle hints (not so subtle once you identify how they look), of what to do, made it a bit too easy for me. the hardest parts are where you have to find a small patch of portal-able surface. and they're not really fun to solve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows and Labyrinths Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 but it basically puts your gun aiming directly at it and it doesn't allow your aim to sway much away from it. Almost forces your hand. this is one of my major gripes with the game. it's one of the biggest signs of the game being 'over-simplified' for a 'wider audience' to the same degree that Crysis 2 was, compared to it's predecessor. Valve are a "Big Brother" concept-obsessed company, which has it's ups and downs. i'm currently starry-eyed for them, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaarg Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 but it basically puts your gun aiming directly at it and it doesn't allow your aim to sway much away from it. Almost forces your hand. this is one of my major gripes with the game. it's one of the biggest signs of the game being 'over-simplified' for a 'wider audience' to the same degree that Crysis 2 was, compared to it's predecessor. Valve are a "Big Brother" concept-obsessed company, which has it's ups and downs. i'm currently starry-eyed for them, though. This bothered me more in Half life 2 than Portals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 but it basically puts your gun aiming directly at it and it doesn't allow your aim to sway much away from it. Almost forces your hand. this is one of my major gripes with the game. it's one of the biggest signs of the game being 'over-simplified' for a 'wider audience' to the same degree that Crysis 2 was, compared to it's predecessor. Valve are a "Big Brother" concept-obsessed company, which has it's ups and downs. i'm confused...what does that have to do with them dumbing down Portal 2 compared to the first Portal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows and Labyrinths Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 it applies on more than one level, but i was referring to instances where events are out of your control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 it applies on more than one level, but i was referring to instances where events are out of your control. ahh right, i see where you were coming from now. thing is though, Valve have never taken this approach with any of their other games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 If you check the developers' commentary they talk a lot about how they tested their puzzles, and removed anything that would create confusion and stuff. from a game design perspective i guess it's justified because portal 2 was to be a longer game than portal, and making a longass game about solving hard puzzles to progress the story would get very tedious quick, so they dumbed down the gameplay in exchange to a smooth playthrough. but i think they could've tried something different, like adding more action based sections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 my absolute favourite from the soundtrack. fantastic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0uW04oswbI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 If you check the developers' commentary they talk a lot about how they tested their puzzles, and removed anything that would create confusion and stuff. yeah i know they did that, and it's blatantly obvious just by playing the game. but i posit the theory that a puzzle game should be...puzzling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 puzzling, yes. infuriating, no. imo valve are the masters of striking that balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 puzzling, yes. infuriating, no. imo valve are the masters of striking that balance. meh, i think they lost the balance here and tipped the scales just a bit too far into the easy territory. but that's just my opinion, worthless as it is to anyone but me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 don't be so down on yourself. i EXTREEEEME RAGEQUIT HL2:ep1 about halfway through 'lowlife' cos i couldn't get past a puzzle a year ago. i picked it up again this week and finally got past that bit, and holy shit am i glad i did. they're better at it than anyone else but they do occasionally get it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 don't be so down on yourself. i EXTREEEEME RAGEQUIT HL2:ep1 about halfway through 'lowlife' cos i couldn't get past a puzzle a year ago. i picked it up again this week and finally got past that bit, and holy shit am i glad i did. they're better at it than anyone else but they do occasionally get it wrong. headcrab zombie darkness? scary part of the game. bastards set it up so they'd spawn when the lights went out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 antlion spawners + cars + zombines + darkness. fuck everything about that shit. the elevator bit you're on about isn't so bad once you figure out where the power switch is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 antlion spawners + cars + zombines + darkness. fuck everything about that shit. the elevator bit you're on about isn't so bad once you figure out where the power switch is. it's still scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sprigg Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 I thought Portal 2 was balanced well in terms of difficulty. A few puzzles I figured out by sheer luck, and there was one in particular I needed a walkthrough to get past, but overall it seemed perfect; I could figure them out, but sometimes I had to rack my brain like fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted June 3, 2011 Share Posted June 3, 2011 the most annoying bits, as yahtzee completely correctly pointed out, were the bits where you were in those vast rooms searching for the square inch of wall that was portal-able. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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