Dpek Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 For anyone else clueless, he's talking about the TV series... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I don't know what this is, but I hope Kelsey Grammer's doing well again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dpek Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 For anyone else clueless, he's talking about the TV series... Yeah, sorry, wanted to keep it simple... Anyway this is a new show on Starz and it's brilliant, brutal and sincere look into Chicago politics. Kelsey plays the main role - the Boss - mayor of Chicago. One of the finest acting I saw on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
data Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 one of the best tv-series i've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Watching the pilot now. Digginit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I have a hard time with Kelsey. He's a very good actor, he's had a tough life and comes across as alternately likable/horrible in the way only people who've lived tough lives can, and I want to like him, but he frigging endorsed Michelle Bachmann and it makes me feel gross to watch anything he does that might have a distinct Kelsey-approved political viewpoint. So, does this have a Kelsey-approved political viewpoint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
data Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 thanks baph, you just ruined kelsey for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 thanks baph, you just ruined kelsey for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 what could possibly ruin kelsey? Oh that, yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 It's weird, though, because he seems to really like playing gay/effeminate. He was in the Broadway revival of La Cage Aux Folles for fucksake. I really have no idea how to read the dude. He does that and then he starts a far-right cable network. Not to mention how do you balance his endorsement of anti-gay rights viewpoints with the total Huge Prick amoral bullshit he pulled in his marriage(s). Kelsey, you are one confusing and confused fucker. Maybe all that conflict makes him a good actor? edit: did not mean to derail thread. It's just... sorta interesting. also edit: I did some google searches and it appears he has spoken out in favor of gay/transgender rights. But he still endorsed Michelle Bachmann. Wait, why her then? This makes no sense. Kelsey you make no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest analogue wings Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I have a hard time with Kelsey. He's a very good actor, he's had a tough life and comes across as alternately likable/horrible in the way only people who've lived tough lives can, and I want to like him, but he frigging endorsed Michelle Bachmann and it makes me feel gross to watch anything he does that might have a distinct Kelsey-approved political viewpoint. So, does this have a Kelsey-approved political viewpoint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rumbo Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Pompous chickenhawk neocon "It's OK when we do it" type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 It's weird, though, because he seems to really like playing gay/effeminate. He was in the Broadway revival of La Cage Aux Folles for fucksake. I really have no idea how to read the dude. He does that and then he starts a far-right cable network. Not to mention how do you balance his endorsement of anti-gay rights viewpoints with the total Huge Prick amoral bullshit he pulled in his marriage(s). Kelsey, you are one confusing and confused fucker. Maybe all that conflict makes him a good actor? edit: did not mean to derail thread. It's just... sorta interesting. also edit: I did some google searches and it appears he has spoken out in favor of gay/transgender rights. But he still endorsed Michelle Bachmann. Wait, why her then? This makes no sense. Kelsey you make no sense. I have a hard time with Kelsey. He's a very good actor, he's had a tough life and comes across as alternately likable/horrible in the way only people who've lived tough lives can, and I want to like him, but he frigging endorsed Michelle Bachmann and it makes me feel gross to watch anything he does that might have a distinct Kelsey-approved political viewpoint. So, does this have a Kelsey-approved political viewpoint? I don't know, liberal newspaper are giving the show good review .. it can't be THAT conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Two episodes in & I haven't really noticed a political slant in either direction. Just a whole lotta stuff the mayor of a big city would have to deal with no matter what his leanings are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murve33 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 thanks baph, you just ruined kelsey for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Also if you judge art based on the artists political views fuck you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np0solnL1XY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 Also if you judge art based on the artists political views fuck you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np0solnL1XY I don't. I will freely and without mercy judge art based on the artwork's political ideology if one is apparent. Also, Skynyrd is terrible. I don't have a problem with Kelsey Grammar as an actor, and as long as the show isn't advancing (without at least also critically examining) some bullshit Bachmannesque social conservatism, I'll probably netflix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rumbo Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iXfq2qWZPk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disparaissant Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 i just lost respect for ALL of those people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rumbo Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jTmgLgDEo4&feature=player_embedded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PySsO4zBQk&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 i just lost respect for ALL of those people. here's beautiful erin to make you feel better (she is beautiful) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meadows and Labyrinths Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 i've never seen nor heard of this show, but i would like to take this opportunity to say that there is a remarkably grand amount of really most excellent television happening right now. we're finally getting it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDO Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 one good thing about this show is that it got me listening to Satie tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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