'Global Warming's Terrifying New Math'

[ignatius]

thinking about adding a life vest/flotation device to the car road side break down kit

Edited August 22, 2022 by ignatius

[ignatius]

 

[J3FF3R00]

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Earth's Recent Climate Spiral 
Video Credit: NASA's Scientific Visualization Studio

Explanation: Is our Earth warming? Compared to the past 250 million years, the Earth is currently enduring a relative cold spell, possibly about four degrees Celsiusbelow average. Over the past 120 years, though, data indicate that the average global temperature of the Earth has increased by nearly one degree Celsius. The featured visualization video depicts Earth's recent global warming in graphic terms. The depicted temperatures are taken from the Goddard Institute for Space Studies' Surface Temperature Analysis. Already noticeable by many, Earth's recent warming trend is causing sea levels to rise, precipitation patterns to change, and pole ice to melt. Few now disagree that recent global warming is occurring, and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has concluded that we humans have created a warming surge that is likely to continue. A continuation could impact many local agricultures and even the global economy. Although there seems to be no simple solutions, geoengineering projects that might help include artificial cloud creation to reduce the amount of sunlight heating the Earth's surface.

 

Edited August 30, 2022 by J3FF3R00

[beerwolf]

News report I watched on flooded Pakistan yesterday was fucking mind blowing. 

Edited August 30, 2022 by beerwolf

[ignatius]

50 minutes ago, beerwolf said:

News report I watched on flooded Pakistan yesterday was fucking mind blowing. 

1000+ people dead. something like 1/3 of the country is flooded. 

fall/winter gonna be weird for sure. 

[ignatius]

 

[zlemflolia]

climate change is caused by industrialized labor, which was instituted by the bourgeois revolutionaries in its grandest and most powerful scale, and yet how can anyone be so confident in their judgement as to think their revolution is the last one needed for the rest of human history, that their economic system and system of "democracy" is the final most advanced form we will ever need, that it's even remotely equipped to handle climate change?  the scale is beyond comprehension and yet somehow the solutions must not abolish McDonald's, the true church of American global imperialism

the true extent of the problems is beyond any of our individual comprehension, even the climatologists themselves are not even exhibiting behavior indicating they truly comprehend the vastness of the loss of life that is waiting for us apparently inevitably in our future, the mentality instilled in us by capitalist indoctrination is self defeating and self hating, the only acceptable psychology for a mass population of wage slave labor

[zlemflolia]

climate change has immense momentum beyond our powers, further beyond our powers than a volcano or hurricane was beyond the powers of the ancients, and the only way to avert it is mass concerted work, labor, performed by all of us to avert it, and the current labor allocator, capital itself, is not going to make the necessary allocation.  only the working class itself is capable of that, but we cannot do it because our basic human needs are kept away from us to force us and kept constantly at risk, to force us into working wage labor our of fear, when we have the materials necessary to achieve abolition of all threats against those human needs, freeing us to achieve aversion of climate change, but we are not allowed to do it

how can it be achieved that all jobs are surrounding abolition of climate change?  every single job can be linked to it in some way

[ignatius]

8 hours ago, ilqx hermolia xpli said:

climate change has immense momentum beyond our powers, further beyond our powers than a volcano or hurricane was beyond the powers of the ancients, and the only way to avert it is mass concerted work, labor, performed by all of us to avert it, and the current labor allocator, capital itself, is not going to make the necessary allocation.  only the working class itself is capable of that, but we cannot do it because our basic human needs are kept away from us to force us and kept constantly at risk, to force us into working wage labor our of fear, when we have the materials necessary to achieve abolition of all threats against those human needs, freeing us to achieve aversion of climate change, but we are not allowed to do it

how can it be achieved that all jobs are surrounding abolition of climate change?  every single job can be linked to it in some way

i think we're beyond the point of avoiding it.. we can only mitigate it.. adapt to it but the word adapt is a loaded one as mainstream media types and normies take it to mean "i'll be fine but good luck everyone else" but they won't be fine really.. it's all predictable to a point but so much of it will be unpredictable and we're not prepared for that... 

even mitigating it somewhat is a huge task requiring cooperation on a scale we're currently not capable of w/o real leadership and someone who can sort of solve some of the big problems of motivating people en masse to take it all really seriously while tackling corporate influence... 

so yeah.. we're fucked.  at its mildest climate change is going to kick a lot of people right in the nuts repeatedly. 

[Nebraska]

10 hours ago, ilqx hermolia xpli said:

the true extent of the problems is beyond any of our individual comprehension, even the climatologists themselves are not even exhibiting behavior indicating they truly comprehend the vastness of the loss of life that is waiting for us apparently inevitably in our future, the mentality instilled in us by capitalist indoctrination is self defeating and self hating, the only acceptable psychology for a mass population of wage slave labor

that zombie ice is going to be no joke

[beerwolf]

A few years ago there was a thread on watmm asking our thoughts on if we are heading towards some sort of apocalypse. I can’t remember specifically the title of the thread. Quite sure it was mostly, though not entirely dismissed, or jokingly laughed off, myself included. I certainly don’t have that opinion now, even though at the back of my mind there has always been an alarm bell ringing, but I was a bit wary of signing up to some Armageddon cult way of thinking. Like I’ve mentioned before my interest in cults makes me pessimistic of doomsday kind of stuff. That kind of stuff, in the past brainwashed complete suckers. But right now I don’t feel that way at all. Something else that’s bothering me is the amount of money we can find for rockets to the moon and billions for war yet there are people absolutely in dire need of help and on the verge of catastrophe with nothing. Just the last few months there’s been a sea change in my outlook on life. This is also fuelled by a situation at work where I’m now seeing the full power of capitalist assholes treating loyal workers like scum. Bloodthirsty lust for profit over everything else. I’m totally sick of it all. And I’m fucking sick of looking at that smug Truss parading around on my tv. Mostly I’ve been apolitical all my life (probably leaning a few degrees to the right) but all of a sudden that seems to be changing. I don’t follow any political party because in my cynical nature I don’t follow people easily.  Apart from Aphex Twin hah!

Thats a big post, stream of consciousness. I have no idea how it will be read by you fine fellows. But it’s how I feel. I won’t revisit it, just in case I get a dozen but felt like sharing it with you.

[ignatius]

41 minutes ago, beerwolf said:

A few years ago there was a thread on watmm asking our thoughts on if we are heading towards some sort of apocalypse. I can’t remember specifically the title of the thread. Quite sure it was mostly, though not entirely dismissed, or jokingly laughed off, myself included. I certainly don’t have that opinion now, even though at the back of my mind there has always been an alarm bell ringing, but I was a bit wary of signing up to some Armageddon cult way of thinking. Like I’ve mentioned before my interest in cults makes me pessimistic of doomsday kind of stuff. That kind of stuff, in the past brainwashed complete suckers. But right now I don’t feel that way at all. Something else that’s bothering me is the amount of money we can find for rockets to the moon and billions for war yet there are people absolutely in dire need of help and on the verge of catastrophe with nothing. Just the last few months there’s been a sea change in my outlook on life. This is also fuelled by a situation at work where I’m now seeing the full power of capitalist assholes treating loyal workers like scum. Bloodthirsty lust for profit over everything else. I’m totally sick of it all. And I’m fucking sick of looking at that smug Truss parading around on my tv. Mostly I’ve been apolitical all my life (probably leaning a few degrees to the right) but all of a sudden that seems to be changing. I don’t follow any political party because in my cynical nature I don’t follow people easily.  Apart from Aphex Twin hah!

Thats a big post, stream of consciousness. I have no idea how it will be read by you fine fellows. But it’s how I feel. I won’t revisit it, just in case I get a dozen but felt like sharing it with you.

the priorities are always fucked here in america.. and mostly always have been.  there's some deep dive needed to sort it all out but the TLDR version is something like... capitalism works here in a very unkind way not just to the outside world but internally too. america would rather give tax breaks to millionaires and billionaires, fund the defense dept/pentagon with half the budget than deal with homelessness, drug addiction , mental health, healthcare etc. this is seen as the normal way of doing things. it's part of the system. the lie that this country tells itself. "this is normal".. because people have 'freedom' and are 'personally responsible' for their lives and it's not the government's problem if people are homeless or the rivers are on fire or industry has poisoned a neighborhood etc etc.. "those people fucked up and wrecked their lives.. they should know better. why should my tax dollars go to helping other people? but yes a strong military is essential"  or whatever. 

obviously generalizing. the differences to other countries are so glaring. 

last night i went out to hear some friends play and also roel funcken was on the bill. a great line up. anyway.. was chatting w/him outside the venue and he's been hanging w/friends in portland a bit the last few days to see some sites (the coast, columbia river gorge etc) but also around portland. he talked about how he was really kinda shocked how fucked up downtown is.. that there's homeless crazy drug addicts in the middle of personal tragedy and catastrophe just out on the street. i guess he saw a woman who was half naked and deranged and dirty and super high on something and no one was helping her.. and he described how in netherlands where he lives that it just works differently and people reach out to help people like that and it's shocking to see so much of that here on the streets... so we had a brief conversation about how it works in portland and what the city is trying to do and policy changes and how pandemic hit right when the new law that decriminalized all drugs in small amounts for personal use but the back of that was supposed to be all the services to be made available for people who need help and how that didn't happen or wasn't in place in time for the law to change etc etc.. 

anyway.. my take away was yes.. america is fucked up w/how it treats people. it's known. and it's a fundamental thing about lack of connection, lack of community, fear and shame and whatever else... 

idk.. just had all that in my head.. paraphrasing some because i don't remember the conversation exactly.

also, thinking on it.. in the sean twitch ama he quickly phrased american capitalism as hyper capitalism "i got mine so fuck you" which is accurate. 

 

[prdctvsm]

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[ignatius]

 

[zlemflolia]

4 hours ago, beerwolf said:

A few years ago there was a thread on watmm asking our thoughts on if we are heading towards some sort of apocalypse. I can’t remember specifically the title of the thread. Quite sure it was mostly, though not entirely dismissed, or jokingly laughed off, myself included. I certainly don’t have that opinion now, even though at the back of my mind there has always been an alarm bell ringing, but I was a bit wary of signing up to some Armageddon cult way of thinking. Like I’ve mentioned before my interest in cults makes me pessimistic of doomsday kind of stuff. That kind of stuff, in the past brainwashed complete suckers. But right now I don’t feel that way at all. Something else that’s bothering me is the amount of money we can find for rockets to the moon and billions for war yet there are people absolutely in dire need of help and on the verge of catastrophe with nothing. Just the last few months there’s been a sea change in my outlook on life. This is also fuelled by a situation at work where I’m now seeing the full power of capitalist assholes treating loyal workers like scum. Bloodthirsty lust for profit over everything else. I’m totally sick of it all. And I’m fucking sick of looking at that smug Truss parading around on my tv. Mostly I’ve been apolitical all my life (probably leaning a few degrees to the right) but all of a sudden that seems to be changing. I don’t follow any political party because in my cynical nature I don’t follow people easily.  Apart from Aphex Twin hah!

Thats a big post, stream of consciousness. I have no idea how it will be read by you fine fellows. But it’s how I feel. I won’t revisit it, just in case I get a dozen but felt like sharing it with you.

once you see the bourgeoisie and who they really are you can never unsee it.  you can't even unsee fellow workers joining them when they climb high enough.  you can even observe the allure of capital making you wish you could become one so your life would be secure.  there is no solution to any of these problems except socialism.  because capitalism is so totalizing, it's everything.  and everything needs to change so drastically, that it can only be through getting rid of capitalism

[zlemflolia]

reaction emojis and their consequences have been a disaster for the watmm

[zlemflolia]

it would just be better if you had to write a text reply is all, even if it's a short one

Edited September 4, 2022 by ilqx hermolia xpli

[iococoi]

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In this issue you will find a personalized history of Earth’s CO2 record, a close look at disturbances in the floodplains in the Mekong Delta, an analysis of how YouTube and other digital streaming services impact the environment, along with critiques on potential carbon sequestration methods and an exploration of the corporations that are most responsible for getting us to where we are today.

https://parametric.press/issue-02/

[auxien]

[Nebraska]

 

[ignatius]

 

[ignatius]

fresh hell.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/08/pakistan-floods-climate-crisis

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Today, Pakistan, the world’s fifth-most-populous country, is fighting for its survival. This summer, erratic monsoon rains battered the country from north to south – Sindh, the southernmost province, received 464% more rain over the last few weeks than the thirty-year average for the period.

At the same time, Pakistan’s glaciers are melting at a rate never seen before. These two consequences of the climate crisis have combined to create a monstrous super-flood that has ravaged the country.

Ninety per cent of crops in Sindh have been damaged; Faisal Edhi, who runs Pakistan’s largest social welfare organisation, the Edhi Foundation, has warned that those who don’t die from the floods risk death by starvation.

 

 

 

[may be rude]

throwing the globe's systems out of whack isn't a good idea

 

there is no "normal" earth naturally returns to. what we set in motion will continually have chain reactions.

 

it's just getting started.

 

the habitat that allowed humans to flourish is (was) very delicate and happenstance.

[Nebraska]

2 hours ago, ignatius said:

fresh hell.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/08/pakistan-floods-climate-crisis

 

 

this will be florida soon. 

i checked, and someone on OAN was bitching about newsom comments about conserving electricity due to the strain on the power grid, mainly because he delivered the speech in an air conditioned room.

it's strange the efforts some take to not be co-operative. 

[Nebraska]

^^^