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Anyway, the mermaid looks a little bit like Tony Cragg's sculptures. Not sure if intentional.

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My only gripe with Banksy is he feels a bit like a self-parody these days. The Daily Mash have ripped on him a few times and they're pretty much always spot on.

 

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/banksy-exhibit-somehow-worse-than-blackpool-20150821101330

 

I definitely think Dismaland looks p cool though, but not enough to visit it.

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can we just end irony now please? i'm getting really sick and tired of it.

Nah, it can be a lot of fun when you do it right. But people trying too hard and thinking that irony is somehow an art form ruin it for everyone. Irony doesn't really have any place in art.

 

 

come on, art that is supposed to be a social commentary is fucking lame. Just make something that's fucking awesome and shut the fuck up.

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I really liked Exit Through the Gift Shop but that was kinda like the end of all things Banksy to me.

His stuff is no longer edgy and... and come on, art that is supposed to be a social commentary is fucking lame. Just make something that's fucking awesome and shut the fuck up.

 

Let me just rephrase some of that...

It's more the people who analyse art to pieces I dislike. The Little Mermaid DOES look cool.

 

 

Yeah I like the mermaid too. Surprise surprise, it's not by Banksy. (I did like the film too)

 

That's the thing though, you couldn't analyse this to pieces if you wanted to.

 

"oh look the hook-a-ducks have oil on them, pollution is bad I guess. Look over there, there's

some sad immigrants on boats, that's bad too. Oh look at cinderella dead in front of the papparrazi, something something princess Di. Oh! Princess! like Cinderella, haha! Papparrazi are bad then I guess. And the media! yeah!"

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now than ever, it's the most precious time to dig banksy. i'm talking to you youngsters out there. take the situation over and be cool.

 

His stuff is no longer edgy and... and come on, art that is supposed to be a social commentary is fucking lame. Just make something that's fucking awesome and shut the fuck up.

you sound like venetian on his latest interview.

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now than ever, it's the most precious time to dig banksy. i'm talking to you youngsters out there. take the situation over and be cool.

 

His stuff is no longer edgy and... and come on, art that is supposed to be a social commentary is fucking lame. Just make something that's fucking awesome and shut the fuck up.

you sound like venetian on his latest interview.

 

 

it's funny how you're not allowed to be political anymore, somehow the corporations have programmed the youth into anti-rebelling, so they trigger every time they notice it and go into shun mode acting as gatekeepers and policemen for the corporations using the parlance of their particular groupthink. A couple of threads here illustrate that well.

I think a thread merge is in order

 

it's gonna be messy though and ruin the flow of both threads. Maybe we should wait until they both die down to save everyone the mental conniptions.

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Delete, you are making paranoid assumptions again, some people just feel like they have no control over the whole thing so they say fuck this shit I'm gonna try to enjoy life as much as possible cause we are fucked anyways

 

Good for you and other that care, really wish you well but I'm tired of being stressed out because fucking assholes cunts are greedy bastard, I can't so anything about it and armchair activism doesn't do anything, just annoy bored people on forums.

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Also stop it with your condescending bullshit, what you think people who arent into politics dont know what going on? most people are aware of how fucked it is CAUSE WE ARE LIVING IT, you dont have a front seat view buddy, you are on the same ship as most of people who just want peace and shit.

 

You cant talk to people like you do cause like a lot of people here they act political and talk a good game but i dont see any action other than having debates on IDM forums with people who just want to dank meme, coming home from work and spend 12 hours on watmm telling people this and that and all sort of other paranoid thoughts is not activism and never will, and i dont care how many fucking times to put on your condescending hat on, ill never accept it.

 

Go to the congo and save some children, or at least make a website trying to raise awareness for all the wrong shit thats going on.

 

I mean, the people who are REAL activism are some of the nicest people in the world, armchair activist are for the most part angry, depressed and just a bunch of negative cunts.

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Also stop it with your condescending bullshit, what you think people who arent into politics dont know what going on? most people are aware of how fucked it is CAUSE WE ARE LIVING IT, you dont have a front seat view buddy, you are on the same ship as most of people who just want peace and shit.

 

You cant talk to people like you do cause like a lot of people here they act political and talk a good game but i dont see any action other than having debates on IDM forums with people who just want to dank meme, coming home from work and spend 12 hours on watmm telling people this and that and all sort of other paranoid thoughts is not activism and never will, and i dont care how many fucking times to put on your condescending hat on, ill never accept it.

 

Go to the congo and save some children, or at least make a website trying to raise awareness for all the wrong shit thats going on.

 

I mean, the people who are REAL activism are some of the nicest people in the world, armchair activist are for the most part angry, depressed and just a bunch of negative cunts.

 

You're serving up ostrich burgers, m8. He'll troll harder next time.

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My only gripe with Banksy is he feels a bit like a self-parody these days. The Daily Mash have ripped on him a few times and they're pretty much always spot on.

 

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/banksy-exhibit-somehow-worse-than-blackpool-20150821101330

 

I definitely think Dismaland looks p cool though, but not enough to visit it.

 

haha this is great. “At Dismaland I got patronised, expensively.”

 

 

can we just end irony now please? i'm getting really sick and tired of it.

Nah, it can be a lot of fun when you do it right. But people trying too hard and thinking that irony is somehow an art form ruin it for everyone. Irony doesn't really have any place in art.

 

just as sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, irony is the lowest form of social commentary. it's just a theme park for hipsters.

 

someone who has become as commercial as Banksy bashing commercialism just makes me LOL.

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Also stop it with your condescending bullshit, what you think people who arent into politics dont know what going on? most people are aware of how fucked it is CAUSE WE ARE LIVING IT, you dont have a front seat view buddy, you are on the same ship as most of people who just want peace and shit.

 

You cant talk to people like you do cause like a lot of people here they act political and talk a good game but i dont see any action other than having debates on IDM forums with people who just want to dank meme, coming home from work and spend 12 hours on watmm telling people this and that and all sort of other paranoid thoughts is not activism and never will, and i dont care how many fucking times to put on your condescending hat on, ill never accept it.

 

Go to the congo and save some children, or at least make a website trying to raise awareness for all the wrong shit thats going on.

 

I mean, the people who are REAL activism are some of the nicest people in the world, armchair activist are for the most part angry, depressed and just a bunch of negative cunts.

 

this

 

not to hate on my brother but he's kinda conspiracy and I think he thinks 'nobody cares about this but me' or like nobody's heard about conspiracy thing number #47 or like they have illuminati jokes on fucking Disney XD but somehow he has exclusive knowledge and/or everybody would just believe in a thing if they had heard about it b4.

 

erm to sum up the last paragraph his son/my nephew seems to think all of youtube is about minecraft and I don't think he grasps that youtube recommends videos based on what he watched before. Same thing for my brother I think, just on a more subtle level. I don't think he understands psychology as far as subcultures feedback loop into themselves like as far as giving themselves the semblance of credibility. Again the youtube recommendations analogy. Or Dan brown is a good writer because he got some books published by someone

 

he has real concerns about the NSA i guess but I think the most activist he's been is watching youtubes and signing online petitions or something

 

also speaking of 'irony' will ironic soundcloud accts. stop following me please. You know the kind, general midi IDM with MS paint icons. Not hello spiral. The kind that's like NOTHING IS BEAUTIFUL ANYMORE LET ME COPY AND PASTE RANDOMLY IN FRUITYLOOPS I MEAN FL STUDIO ©

 

although I do admit he's where I got the serious interest in electronic music outside of videogam soundtracks. But I thought he was going to raves in like 1992 when it was like 1999. I give him credit again though I think he's digging deeper into old rave music from GOLDEN ERA or whatev

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this didn't come out of nowhere btw, I showed him that banksyideas twitter acct and trolled him a little. Like 'all I'm saying ______ is that maybe some people think Banksy is just OK' or he said 'these jokes aren't even very good or smart' and I was like 'maybe the owner of the twitter acct. doesn't think it's worth trying too hard making fun of banksy' and I got him a little flustered

 

also I proved he just likes salvador dali because he think's it's cool without ever researching whether dali was a jerk or not

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Also i dont understand, are people who like disney suppose to go there and say to themselves "oh yeah ... Disney IS shit", o really bansky, the same people who are okay with blood minerals that produces the macbook pros you (bansky) and all your stupid interns and your fucking fans who really dont give a shit about slaves mining for fucking metals, minerals and diamonds for your fucking sheltered suburban white kid life, but then they go to places like these take a couple of pictures go back to starbucks and tell your group of yago-looking friends that "disney is evil" while you write in your blog (using a MACBOOK PRO) how bansky is the man.

 

I dont blame bansky really, i mean i get what he is trying to say, but at this point i think he found his idiotic audience who just want to feel good about themselves without having to do any ACTUAL work/research/volunteering/activism

That's like being angry because people that like or have an opinion about space aren't astronauts. It's a nullifying stance that in and of itself presents nothing and means nothing. It should be pretty clear by now that you can have an opinion or knowledge associated with a subject and not have to be a furiously active participant in it. Take for example music, perhaps that's a more relevant example, so now people can't critique music because they don't make it, absurd. This argument is just an easy get out clause for those that themselves aren't thinking too hard about what they are pointlessly railing against, whilst taking the most painful participant in any activity as being representative of the whole. Refer to my 'there's arseholes everywhere liking everything' comment from the other Banksy thread for some levity on this thing. So you are free to like it or dislike it divorced of what you think about others doing the same or their motives, it's art.

 

Also, I realise that this is just a glorified art sale. But for what it is, which is a means to shift commodities to rich people, I think they took an interesting approach not deserving of anyone's churlish rebellion. It's just some capitalism, and if you rail against it, does that not then make you an 'activist'. Perhaps by the measure of the argument that I was rebutting should you not now go out and join an occupy 1%r protest in front of a bank somewhere, lest you be pilloried as an hypocrite by some user, in some thread, on some forum somewhere.

 

peess

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now than ever, it's the most precious time to dig banksy. i'm talking to you youngsters out there. take the situation over and be cool.

 

His stuff is no longer edgy and... and come on, art that is supposed to be a social commentary is fucking lame. Just make something that's fucking awesome and shut the fuck up.

you sound like venetian on his latest interview.

 

 

it's funny how you're not allowed to be political anymore, somehow the corporations have programmed the youth into anti-rebelling, so they trigger every time they notice it and go into shun mode acting as gatekeepers and policemen for the corporations using the parlance of their particular groupthink. A couple of threads here illustrate that well.

I think a thread merge is in order

 

it's gonna be messy though and ruin the flow of both threads. Maybe we should wait until they both die down to save everyone the mental conniptions.

 

I already tried that, and was voted down.

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Also i dont understand, are people who like disney suppose to go there and say to themselves "oh yeah ... Disney IS shit", o really bansky, the same people who are okay with blood minerals that produces the macbook pros you (bansky) and all your stupid interns and your fucking fans who really dont give a shit about slaves mining for fucking metals, minerals and diamonds for your fucking sheltered suburban white kid life, but then they go to places like these take a couple of pictures go back to starbucks and tell your group of yago-looking friends that "disney is evil" while you write in your blog (using a MACBOOK PRO) how bansky is the man.

 

I dont blame bansky really, i mean i get what he is trying to say, but at this point i think he found his idiotic audience who just want to feel good about themselves without having to do any ACTUAL work/research/volunteering/activism

That's like being angry because people that like or have an opinion about space aren't astronauts. It's a nullifying stance that in and of itself presents nothing and means nothing. It should be pretty clear by now that you can have an opinion or knowledge associated with a subject and not have to be a furiously active participant in it. Take for example music, perhaps that's a more relevant example, so now people can't critique music because they don't make it, absurd. This argument is just an easy get out clause for those that themselves aren't thinking too hard about what they are pointlessly railing against, whilst taking the most painful participant in any activity as being representative of the whole. Refer to my 'there's arseholes everywhere liking everything' comment from the other Banksy thread for some levity on this thing. So you are free to like it or dislike it divorced of what you think about others doing the same or their motives, it's art.

 

Also, I realise that this is just a glorified art sale. But for what it is, which is a means to shift commodities to rich people, I think they took an interesting approach not deserving of anyone's churlish rebellion. It's just some capitalism, and if you rail against it, does that not then make you an 'activist'. Perhaps by the measure of the argument that I was rebutting should you not now go out and join an occupy 1%r protest in front of a bank somewhere, lest you be pilloried as an hypocrite by some user, in some thread, on some forum somewhere.

 

peess

 

apparently, he is staging another undercover art sale at the park. say what you will, but you could acquire an art piece that will undoubtedly appreciate in the future, think of it as an investment. Which he wold abhor, LOL. i wouldn't doubt he reads this forum to be honest.

 

Damn, Jimmy Cauty is selling pieces too! I almost hold him in higher regard than Banksy.

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