LimpyLoo Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Marcel Duchamp's "Fountain" is currently alive and well, Sitting at the bottom of some landfill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadameChaos Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 but is it art? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 but is it art? Even if it's not It's widely regarded as the greatest work of the 20th century Based on current art prices And the fact that it's 'lost to history' If you spent the next 10-20 years digging it up I have to think you could get like $100 million for it (Just based on the fact that minor Egon Scheile doodles regularly go for $10million-ish) P.S. Yes it's art Eno made a very good point on this He said art is about the experience something induces Not the technique behind it And to wrap this around In 1993 Eno went to a museum (forget which) And urinated in one of the "Fountain" replicas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Marcel Duchamp's "Fountain" is currently alive and well, Sitting at the bottom of some landfill. "alive" and "well" might be pushing it a bit. "crushed" and "rotting" might be more appropriate. But by all means, start yer diggin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadameChaos Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 modern art is rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Atom Dowry Firth Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 It's probably in some ludicrously rich oligarch's private collection somewhere next to the real Mona Lisa and the mummified horizontal corpse of Osama Bin Laden, mouth agape, suspended in a large rectangular glass box full of formaldehyde solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblequadrat Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 modernism is an enlightened civilisation we should plagiarise, assimilate and build upon anyone who says modern art is rubbish has to explain what sets them apart from someone who thinks pondbury is better than the barbican the Urgent Note the Shanghai revolutionaries issued on january 9 1967 is absurdly beautiful, as is any random 1960's glass and brick school featuring bathroom tiles somewhere in the facade on a related note, let's put a reward on the perpetrators of britpop and possibly morrissey as well by the way, i've never really liked duchamp much anyway lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 i think that linking this thread and this thread together is the best viable solution to understanding the untapped, hidden genius behind either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 So like...I guess no minor epiphanies? Is this gonna just be a modern art thread? I had such high hopes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 i blame this thread for today being a very dull monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 So like...I guess no minor epiphanies? Is this gonna just be a modern art thread? I had such high hopes... this is a forum full of semi-depressed 20-somethings, which means life changing epiphanies every couple months. Just give it time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 20 something? Them were the days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadameChaos Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 i have a mini epiphany every time i wake up on a weekend after drinking heavily the night before and feel completely normal and a bit high. i'm all like "the world's such a beautiful place" and "it's so great to be alive", but then the hangover kicks in and i realise i was still drunk before. toplel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadameChaos Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 ironically, duchamp made his art because he felt art had become redundant. i studied aesthetics so i'm well aware of the logistics of it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prdctvsm Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 prior 2 his readymaking, duchamp helped originate cubism in paris @ the same tiem as picasso, braque, gris & co. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nude_Descending_a_Staircase,_No._2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tec Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I had time for modern art in my twenties, now it can fuck right off. This is in the Turner prize short list. Yeah? Fuck off mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublename Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 It's time to double down on selling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 modern art is rubbish. it's also not modern ... and there's plenty of art going on all the time of an high standard, it just doesn't get attention of the small circle jerkles that pretend to be the gatekeepers of high art. They are all pretty dim so what they find fascinating is a reflection of that fact. Probably most of the highest priced new art is bought on the recommendation of gallery owners as an investment vehicle, then warehoused. It's just a sham. If it had real visual merit, it would be easier for the wider public to assess it's value, which would be the end for the gatekeepers and those running the art market scam, where very few shit artists are lauded as precious masters, to keep the prices high. lust for money really is at the root of most of the evil and decay in this world. i have a mini epiphany every time i wake up on a weekend after drinking heavily the night before and feel completely normal and a bit high. i'm all like "the world's such a beautiful place" and "it's so great to be alive", but then the hangover kicks in and i realise i was still drunk before. toplel. yeah, that blows most blowedly ... Of course i stay up way beyond this so don't experience that and proceed directly to dank. But i know what you're talking about. It's much better when it's from weed, cause there's no hangover, you just get on with your day. Alcohol is such a terrible drug. /dleetr doesn't smoke mull, not for nearly 20 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I had time for modern art in my twenties, now it can fuck right off. This is in the Turner prize short list. Yeah? Fuck off mate. The turner prize is like the Darwin award for art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblequadrat Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I had time for modern art in my twenties, now it can fuck right off. This is in the Turner prize short list. Yeah? Fuck off mate. what is specifically modern about that piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tec Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 *shrugs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candiru Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 A lot of art is totall bullshit. Your plumber might have better artistic sense than a lot of so-called artists, but he was more motivated to do something practical for a living. We romanticize artists too much. A lot of them must think they automatically deserve a reward by taking a risk and doing something less tangible with their time. I see this sense of entitlement with a lot of self described creative types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I have my own pa system now. I have a place that can be venue. Is it a minor epiphany to say that I ought to start hosting shows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 A lot of art is totall bullshit. Your plumber might have better artistic sense than a lot of so-called artists, but he was more motivated to do something practical for a living. We romanticize artists too much. A lot of them must think they automatically deserve a reward by taking a risk and doing something less tangible with their time. I see this sense of entitlement with a lot of self described creative types. Best post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triachus Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 this thread is more like a pee fanny amirite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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