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Agreed. Awaiting the full LP of him with the Philharmonic Orchestra. Ghettoville is criminally underrated in my view I actually prefer it to AZD. I think with Actress a lot of people feel it is unfinished or meandering but for me personally it's about creating a sound world to escape into rather than music in the traditional sense.

Haha! Yeah, good point! I suppose I want both of those things but I agree that it's very difficult to do both of those things simultaneously. It's a similar difficulty with discussing terrorism I suppose, you want to renounce it but you can't do that without also publicizing it. Not really sure if I know of a solution.

I think the comments here about the media reacting poorly to his tweets are correct. We need to quickly stop thinking we should put this man on a pedestal as he's a President and refrain from giving his idiocy publicity. Any human being who made such statements in any context regardless of their stature is normally very quickly ignored and denounced as foolish. I think it's very bad that there isn't a much greater outcry about how this person is clearly spreading negativity and hatred in a time when peace is so vital. He's only getting away with it because he's in a position of power and plays into the hands of an electorate who sees isolationism and violence as the only way out of conflict. This is all my personal opinion of course but I do feel that hundreds of years from now we will look back and laugh hysterically at how idiotic this has all become. I don't think we can objectively allow any human beings to be put into positions of power without a lot better screening than this/ a better kind of collective consciousness allowing us to make objective decisions. Power and wealth overpower pragmatism and logic in my book.

People don't talk to each other much nowadays.

PJ Harvey - Rid of Me (original pressing) £80 but well worth it. Sounds absolutely incredible. She's pretty much the reason I make music.

Can't believe what he posted today regarding right wing radicalism in the UK. Man has no respect and consideration for others. Sad times.

Agreed!I suppose it would be nice to kind of have a flow chart sort of thing to direct your listening to a specific flavor as I believe there is an evolution in the sound palate as the albums progress. Obviously it would be pretty subjective as you'd have to classify things by sub-genres etc but there should be some pretty objective indicators if the style changes over time. I am rambling.

What would be really interesting is if someone wrote a guide to ZF studio albums. According to discogs there are 24!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You just made me play this and I am now happier. Thanks! PADS = HEAVEN

Makes for pretty interesting reading regarding the above image September 18, 2017 referencing Popular Soviet Songs And Youth Music, 2xCass, Ltd, C90, none, REDC 58 Of all the odd school packaging of cassettes that appeared in the magic era that was the 80s, this double cassette by Zoviet France is one of my favourites. Not only do the cassettes contain some amazing music, the packaging is way beyond belief. And, in those days of DIY-yore, the sky for packaging was the limit - as long as you and your friends had enough free time (read: if you were unemployed) to create and assemble the often stunning product packaging concepts. And Zoviet France was a big player in that field. In 1980 Ben Ponton and Mark Warren had joined forces to create unconventional music as well as unconventional product packaging using material such as aluminium foil, hessian fabric, tar and other intriguing substances to pack up their releases. None however, turned out more spectacular or labour-intense than their 1985 double cassette Popular Soviet Songs And Youth Music. Rumour has it that only 200 copies were assembled, which makes sense – just imagine the amount of work involved in packing a hand-painted stick, a piece of rope, a parody on the American flag (featuring hammer and sickle instead of stars and stripes) silk screened on muslin, several hand-printed paper art inserts plus a radio-active feather collected from the beach at Seascale – near the Sellafield nuclear reactor – into a specially sculpted ceramic box and sealing the whole thing off with wax. Even multi-lingual user instructions were included, urging buyers to ‘discard burned cassettes and retain box’. The cassettes themselves feature over two and a half hours of non-compromising music. Less user- and listener-friendly than many of Zoviet France’s ambient releases, Popular Soviet Songs And Youth Music is an alienated grittier, and admittedly at times patchy affair. Zoviet France clearly refused to make any compromises, with as much exuberance in the music as in the packaging. Popular Songs and Soviet Music is a confrontational but fascinating statement – this is us and this is what we feel to be important to us it almost screams. And I agree; of all the Zoviet France releases that I used to have, this one is the only one left in my collection. Popular Soviet Songs and Youth Music is an important artistic statement that somehow has transcended time and place. As such, it almost seems inevitable that copies with all content complete and correct are near-impossible to locate.

I listen to a lot of Muslimgauze and so I kind of group their stuff in that sort of thing of highly prolific sound explorers/artists. There's some interesting comments at the bottom of this discogs site about them with some guy ranting about how they've deteriorated since taking up digital instrumentation. https://www.discogs.com/artist/581-Zoviet-France Don't know enough about the band to really comment on that, it's all absolutely gorgeous to me. I prefer it to Nurse With Wound - I find that too abrasive at times although still good. I also like the fact that they released creatively packaged records which are pretty interesting to say the least! WANT!

That track is gorgeous! Properly inspiring and beautiful. I will try and get some of this soon, it deserves my money.

I agree that it's not for casual listening. I very much agree with that. I think you need to be ready to fully immerse yourself in it. I wish I owned some of this. I'd appreciate it more if I did. Going to Manchester in a few days record shopping so I might try and see if I can find anything. I got into this stuff around the same time I started listening to Nurse With Wound. Perhaps two very different things but they are both incredibly evocative and instantly make me want to make tunes. Keep giving me recommendations - the discography is too vast to know where to dip in and out.

Nicely done! I adore ZF but don't own any records/think they are pretty hard to get hold of anyway. I listen to Eostre (1984) quite often: Discogs tells me they have 24 albums with :Garista:(1982) being the first so I suppose that's where people should start?! I can listen to about 5 minutes of this stuff and get instantly inspired to make tunes so I appreciate this thread!

https://www.discogs.com/Thomas-K%C3%B6ner-Nunatak-Gongamur/master/49523 Been listening to a lot of Biokinetics and decided to dig a little deeper.

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I really really enjoyed it. Parts of it were a bit filler but overall I thought it was quite profound and thought provoking. :)

I love this thread. Drool inducing stuff.

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I'm sorry but this guy is so special. Instant buy.

@westhead, I have a pack of your toy samples that im still yet to use....amazing if I remember. Sent from my GT-I9100P using Tapatalk

Tool - Lateralus I know this must have been discussed elsewhere many times but whatever. I just think this is INCREDIBLE. The guitar tone is exactly my taste and all the perc bits and weird drone like intros to some of the tracks are epic in mythic proportions. I'd like to know more about the inspiration behind the album..I know it references Fibbonaci and obviously the artwork is quite indicative of something about human nature etc. Just amazing stuff.

Awesome

This is probably stupid thinking but do you think the short synth burst tracks are intended to be a gift to fans for re-sampling purposes for music production? You could probably get some nice resampled cheetah synths going with those tracks.

The Cure (1997) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0123948/?ref_=nv_sr_2 Really unsettling and intelligent crime/horror from Japan