petsim Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) I read Blood Meridian about a decade ago when I was bingeing on McCarthy. It’s the kind of book that I’m glad I read but won’t revisit for probably another decade. Same with a lot of McCarthy - they stay with you for a long long time. Child of God is another one of his that sticks in the brain. I’m reading Ballard’s short stories at the moment. Hit and miss for me but mostly hit. He has a gift for playing with jargon and when he gets the tone right it’s brilliant. Master and Margarita: haven’t read it in many years - isn’t there a scene at the end where one of the clownish characters is revealed to be solemn knight in his true form? Edited July 8, 2019 by petsim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doorjamb Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 6 hours ago, petsim said: I’m reading Ballard’s short stories at the moment. Hit and miss for me but mostly hit. He has a gift for playing with jargon and when he gets the tone right it’s brilliant. One of many reasons I admire Ballard is that he does straightforward SF stories & fragmentary antinarrative pieces equally artfully. Also the fact that just hearing/reading his name instantly fills my mind's eye with glassy sand dunes & skeletal skyscrapers—the man painted with a truly magic palette of imagery. Gonna borrow Alan Moore's Voice of the Fire (pretty sure that's the title) from my brother tomorrow; gave it to him a few years back but never actually read it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sweepstakes Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 13 hours ago, doorjamb said: One of many reasons I admire Ballard is that he does straightforward SF stories & fragmentary antinarrative pieces equally artfully. Also the fact that just hearing/reading his name instantly fills my mind's eye with glassy sand dunes & skeletal skyscrapers—the man painted with a truly magic palette of imagery. What would you recommend? I read High Rise a while back and really enjoyed it, but then I tried to read some of his short stories - I vaguely remember one about music therapy for plants - and was pretty bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 High Rise is one of a 'thematic trilogy'. The other two are Concrete Island and Crash. Read them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limo Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Went on a Ballard binge around a decade ago, liked most of it, but found Crash all but unreadable. The mid-20th century avant garde has not aged well. Luckily most of his other work has, so I'm not complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsim Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I’ve read High Rise and Concrete Island - both excellent. I like this kind of “mundane” speculative fiction: making the commonplace or humdrum surreal/alienating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Crash unreadable?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 13 hours ago, petsim said: I’ve read High Rise and Concrete Island - both excellent. I like this kind of “mundane” speculative fiction: making the commonplace or humdrum surreal/alienating. Yes that's exactly what I liked about High Rise. Sounds like Concrete Island is the next one I should check out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tec Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Yeah that’s a really good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Was the first Ballard I ever read. After reading WIll Self writing about it, gushingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limo Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 On 7/7/2019 at 12:33 PM, hello spiral said: Crash unreadable?! *all but* Repetitive, formless and overly descriptive. Quote As she peered through the window at Vaughan's camera her canny eyes were clearly aware of his real interest in her. The posture of her hands on the steering wheel and accelerator treadle, the unhealthy fingers pointing back towards her breasts, were elements in some stylized masturbatory rite. Her strong face with its unmatching planes seemed to mimic the deformed panels of the car, almost as if she consciously realized that these twisted instrument binnacles provided a readily accessible anthology of depraved acts, the keys to an alternative sexuality. I stared at the photographs in the harsh light. Without thinking, I visualized a series of imaginary pictures I might take of her: in various sexual acts, her legs supported by sections of complex machine tools, pulleys and trestles; with her physical education instructor, coaxing this conventional young man into the new parameters of her body, developing a sexual expertise that would be an exact analogue of the other skills created by the multiplying technologies of the twentieth century. Thinking of the extensor rictus of her spine during orgasm, the erect hairs on her undermuscled thighs, I stared at the stylized manufacturer's medallion visible in the photographs, the contoured flanks of the window pillars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tec Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Whilst I was reading it I had a scooter and drove all over London, I knew the city like the inside of my tiny house, but there’s areas which still seemed difficult to reach. I did write below the Westway comes to mind but a simple google search has shown strong evidence this is what Ballard had in mind. It’s really not difficult to imagine such a place existing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadellisTheSixth Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 On 6/30/2019 at 9:38 PM, rhmilo said: Both (Graeber and The Master and Margarita) are excellent. Really enjoyed them ( for different reasons, obviously). The first half of the twentieth century has been very unkind to Russians, but damn did it make them produce a lot of good writing. I’m currently reading The Twelve Chairs by Ilya Ilf and Jevgeni Petrov, also from roughly the same period. It’s about the antics of a former nobleman who tries to hunt down twelve chairs (hence the title) that were confiscated from him after the Revolution. Very entertaining. that sounds up my alley, ill sus. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 On 7/9/2019 at 2:23 AM, rhmilo said: *all but* Repetitive, formless and overly descriptive. :cums tho: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embers Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Have been slowly churning through UNSOUND:UNDEAD https://www.urbanomic.com/book/unsoundundead/ "A brilliant multi-disciplinary, multi-genre exploration of reality as perceived and unperceived. Unsound:Undead exists at the intersection of fact, fiction and philosophy. It weaves these together into a collection of short essays that are both intriguing and thought-provocative. An absolutely fascinating compendium into audio research and audio intelligence and its application into physical and metaphysical realms." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lada Laika Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I’m finally caught up with The Expanse and was hankering for more sprawling epic scifi. Did I find a new book, you ask? Nope, I’m just reading Dune for the zillionth time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsim Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Lada Laika said: I’m just reading Dune for the zillionth time. I’m just about to read it for the first time. I’m guessing by your comment that it still stands up. And I am coming to it cold: I have a vague, probably incorrect, notion of what it’s about (dynastic power struggles over resources on a desert planet?) but have not read it, discussed the narrative with anyone or seen the film version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lada Laika Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, petsim said: I’m just about to read it for the first time. I’m guessing by your comment that it still stands up. And I am coming to it cold: I have a vague, probably incorrect, notion of what it’s about (dynastic power struggles over resources on a desert planet?) but have not read it, discussed the narrative with anyone or seen the film version. Honestly, it might be colored by the fact that I first read it when I was barely a teen, but yeah it holds up. Herbert’s prose can be stiff but it’s nowhere as obtuse as say, Tolkien could be, and his worldbuilding is just as intricate and detailed. Going in cold is the proper way to do it. I wish I could read it for the first time again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsim Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Ah great. I’ve been saving it for when I have some time off and it’s coming up in a week or so. I know it’s a trilogy: are the other parts as good or is the reputation of these books built on the first one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lada Laika Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 37 minutes ago, petsim said: Ah great. I’ve been saving it for when I have some time off and it’s coming up in a week or so. I know it’s a trilogy: are the other parts as good or is the reputation of these books built on the first one? Almost entirely built on the first one. Dune Messiah is decent and I’m on record as a huge defender of Children of Dune, but the former is almost a novella compared to the others, and the latter can drag in parts. I’ve never made it past Book 4 (God Emperor of Dune? I think?) with any semblance of sanity remaining. There are the superfans who claim all 6 or 7 or however many there are are unparalleled achievements of literature but I think they’re just huffing spice. Or maybe my higher consciousness hasn’t ascended to being a thousand year old worm god yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lada Laika Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Also the prequel books (co-written by Kevin Anderson & Herbert’s douchebag son who also lives in my neighborhood and called the cops on my unleashed dog while we were playing fetch on a fenced in school field on a Saturday in July) are all complete trash and should be avoided at all costs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsim Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 9 hours ago, Lada Laika said: I’ve never made it past Book 4 (God Emperor of Dune? I think?) with any semblance of sanity remaining. Cheers for the heads up. I doubt that i’ll make it that far in but who knows. And that incident with your dog has definitely put me off the prequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Maggie Gee - Light Years Nice little bit of English ,dry, comedically existential slice-of-life 80s literary stuff. The prose is lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 James Herbert - Ash. Picked up hardbound copy for 50p in local charity shop, looks unread. Used to read a lot of Herbert when I was younger (the Rats trilogy especially I recall), so interested to see how this fairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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