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so how long do i have to wait to be in the secret ltm club? 10-15 years? will this site still be around that far into the future

 

It's already been around for 10...

 

Once again: there WAS a LTM forum, somebody outed it, got closed, so all the LTM accounts were moved to EKT Plus, something got screwed up in the db, etc.

 

Any screenshots of the LTM forum you may have seen are old, or doctored.

 

The main reason the LTM forum was hidden was this very reason - people knowing about it's existence would whine and moan about how it wasn't fair, etc. that some were allowed in, some were not - I can't understand why people got so worked up about something like a forum they couldn't read - it's a forum - it's not like it contained special downloads or exclusive content or anything - it was just a haven from the regular forum for those who either had been on the site many years, were active contributors to the community (not financially), or were overall cool people - just like you have a group of regulars at a pub or a club, you can't expect somebody who's just walked through the door to just join in a group like that - it puts the regulars off, as they really don't know this new person, and it makes the new person feel awkward (not the member).

 

Over time, if that new person came on a regular basis, was friendly, actively participated in pub/club activities, and was generally liked by everyone there, then he or she would be welcomed into that group of regulars and recognized for their contribution to the establishment. Sounds normal/alright when put in that context, doesn't it? Nobody else would bat an eyelash at it normally, except those who felt some pangs of jealousy over it, which is a bit immature in the context.

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It's already been around for 10...

 

Once again: there WAS a LTM forum, somebody outed it, got closed, so all the LTM accounts were moved to EKT Plus, something got screwed up in the db, etc.

 

Any screenshots of the LTM forum you may have seen are old, or doctored.

 

The main reason the LTM forum was hidden was this very reason - people knowing about it's existence would whine and moan about how it wasn't fair, etc. that some were allowed in, some were not - I can't understand why people got so worked up about something like a forum they couldn't read - it's a forum - it's not like it contained special downloads or exclusive content or anything - it was just a haven from the regular forum for those who either had been on the site many years, were active contributors to the community (not financially), or were overall cool people - just like you have a group of regulars at a pub or a club, you can't expect somebody who's just walked through the door to just join in a group like that - it puts the regulars off, as they really don't know this new person, and it makes the new person feel awkward (not the member).

 

Over time, if that new person came on a regular basis, was friendly, actively participated in pub/club activities, and was generally liked by everyone there, then he or she would be welcomed into that group of regulars and recognized for their contribution to the establishment. Sounds normal/alright when put in that context, doesn't it? Nobody else would bat an eyelash at it normally, except those who felt some pangs of jealousy over it, which is a bit immature in the context.

 

I have made a financial contribution (usually a modest $10, I don't post too often anymore) whenever a request for server costs has been made, including the most recent couple of months. I find the idea of an LTM forum, and your defense of one, infantile. However, it's simply outrageous that some of those who contributed financially to the site were unknowingly supporting some kind of secret members club. It's shameful. And that shame extends to the idiots who instigated and populated this secret forum. And I really fucking resent, "except those who felt some pangs of jealousy over it, which is a bit immature in the context."

 

Again, my financial and other contributions to the site have been modest. But it wouldn't surprise me if there were others who were more generous. I think there are some people due an apology. And if there is still some secret forum, and bearing in mind the fact there was one in the first place undermines your credibility, then please delete my WATMM account.

 

One final thing. To those LTMs who did not bring its existence to the attention of others, and I know there were some that did, and got off on your exclusive circle jerk clique, you're a bunch of unmitigated cunts. And I mean that in a 'real life' sense, not through the persona of a moustachioed Jimmy Nail.

 

Rowan

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It's already been around for 10...

 

Once again: there WAS a LTM forum, somebody outed it, got closed, so all the LTM accounts were moved to EKT Plus, something got screwed up in the db, etc.

 

Any screenshots of the LTM forum you may have seen are old, or doctored.

 

The main reason the LTM forum was hidden was this very reason - people knowing about it's existence would whine and moan about how it wasn't fair, etc. that some were allowed in, some were not - I can't understand why people got so worked up about something like a forum they couldn't read - it's a forum - it's not like it contained special downloads or exclusive content or anything - it was just a haven from the regular forum for those who either had been on the site many years, were active contributors to the community (not financially), or were overall cool people - just like you have a group of regulars at a pub or a club, you can't expect somebody who's just walked through the door to just join in a group like that - it puts the regulars off, as they really don't know this new person, and it makes the new person feel awkward (not the member).

 

Over time, if that new person came on a regular basis, was friendly, actively participated in pub/club activities, and was generally liked by everyone there, then he or she would be welcomed into that group of regulars and recognized for their contribution to the establishment. Sounds normal/alright when put in that context, doesn't it? Nobody else would bat an eyelash at it normally, except those who felt some pangs of jealousy over it, which is a bit immature in the context.

 

I have made a financial contribution (usually a modest $10, I don't post too often anymore) whenever a request for server costs has been made, including the most recent couple of months. I find the idea of an LTM forum, and your defense of one, infantile. However, it's simply outrageous that some of those who contributed financially to the site were unknowingly supporting some kind of secret members club. It's shameful. And that shame extends to the idiots who instigated and populated this secret forum. And I really fucking resent, "except those who felt some pangs of jealousy over it, which is a bit immature in the context."

 

Again, my financial and other contributions to the site have been modest. But it wouldn't surprise me if there were others who were more generous. I think there are some people due an apology. And if there is still some secret forum, and bearing in mind the fact there was one in the first place undermines your credibility, then please delete my WATMM account.

 

One final thing. To those LTMs who did not bring its existence to the attention of others, and I know there were some that did, and got off on your exclusive circle jerk clique, you're a bunch of unmitigated cunts. And I mean that in a 'real life' sense, not through the persona of a moustachioed Jimmy Nail.

 

Rowan

 

If it weren't for the fact that I'm a mod of the LTM forum (because off a $100 a month fee that I'm not supposed to mention) then I'd agree with this comment fully!

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so how long do i have to wait to be in the secret ltm club? 10-15 years? will this site still be around that far into the future

 

It's already been around for 10...

 

Once again: there WAS a LTM forum, somebody outed it, got closed, so all the LTM accounts were moved to EKT Plus, something got screwed up in the db, etc.

 

Any screenshots of the LTM forum you may have seen are old, or doctored.

 

The main reason the LTM forum was hidden was this very reason - people knowing about it's existence would whine and moan about how it wasn't fair, etc. that some were allowed in, some were not - I can't understand why people got so worked up about something like a forum they couldn't read - it's a forum - it's not like it contained special downloads or exclusive content or anything - it was just a haven from the regular forum for those who either had been on the site many years, were active contributors to the community (not financially), or were overall cool people - just like you have a group of regulars at a pub or a club, you can't expect somebody who's just walked through the door to just join in a group like that - it puts the regulars off, as they really don't know this new person, and it makes the new person feel awkward (not the member).

 

Over time, if that new person came on a regular basis, was friendly, actively participated in pub/club activities, and was generally liked by everyone there, then he or she would be welcomed into that group of regulars and recognized for their contribution to the establishment. Sounds normal/alright when put in that context, doesn't it? Nobody else would bat an eyelash at it normally, except those who felt some pangs of jealousy over it, which is a bit immature in the context.

 

Actually I agree with this.

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there's an unbelievable amount of CP in the anonymous sub-forum that i would be more outraged about, if i were the outragey type

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It's already been around for 10...

 

Once again: there WAS a LTM forum, somebody outed it, got closed, so all the LTM accounts were moved to EKT Plus, something got screwed up in the db, etc.

 

Any screenshots of the LTM forum you may have seen are old, or doctored.

 

The main reason the LTM forum was hidden was this very reason - people knowing about it's existence would whine and moan about how it wasn't fair, etc. that some were allowed in, some were not - I can't understand why people got so worked up about something like a forum they couldn't read - it's a forum - it's not like it contained special downloads or exclusive content or anything - it was just a haven from the regular forum for those who either had been on the site many years, were active contributors to the community (not financially), or were overall cool people - just like you have a group of regulars at a pub or a club, you can't expect somebody who's just walked through the door to just join in a group like that - it puts the regulars off, as they really don't know this new person, and it makes the new person feel awkward (not the member).

 

Over time, if that new person came on a regular basis, was friendly, actively participated in pub/club activities, and was generally liked by everyone there, then he or she would be welcomed into that group of regulars and recognized for their contribution to the establishment. Sounds normal/alright when put in that context, doesn't it? Nobody else would bat an eyelash at it normally, except those who felt some pangs of jealousy over it, which is a bit immature in the context.

 

I have made a financial contribution (usually a modest $10, I don't post too often anymore) whenever a request for server costs has been made, including the most recent couple of months. I find the idea of an LTM forum, and your defense of one, infantile. However, it's simply outrageous that some of those who contributed financially to the site were unknowingly supporting some kind of secret members club. It's shameful. And that shame extends to the idiots who instigated and populated this secret forum. And I really fucking resent, "except those who felt some pangs of jealousy over it, which is a bit immature in the context."

 

Again, my financial and other contributions to the site have been modest. But it wouldn't surprise me if there were others who were more generous. I think there are some people due an apology. And if there is still some secret forum, and bearing in mind the fact there was one in the first place undermines your credibility, then please delete my WATMM account.

 

One final thing. To those LTMs who did not bring its existence to the attention of others, and I know there were some that did, and got off on your exclusive circle jerk clique, you're a bunch of unmitigated cunts. And I mean that in a 'real life' sense, not through the persona of a moustachioed Jimmy Nail.

 

Rowan

 

First: Since there isn't a LTM forum anymore, this shouldn't be an issue/bother you in the slightest anymore, and your financial contribution put you in the Knob Twiddler group, which has extended abilities/privileges over "regular" (aka non-paying) members - doesn't that make you no better (or worse) than the "elitist" ex-LTM members?

 

Also, while appreciated, financial contributions do NOT equal exclusive rights to any forum/subforum, unless specifically stated otherwise. I think you'll find this to be common practice on any internet forum (or real-life club). There are as many, if not more members who have contributed financially in support of this site, and have been banned just as easily as a non-paying member. Again, financial contributions do NOT equal exclusive rights other than ones specifically outlined in any subscription packages (which will be coming back once the Subscriptions application for this version of the board is out of Release Candidate status, which should be soon).

 

there's an unbelievable amount of CP in the anonymous sub-forum that i would be more outraged about, if i were the outragey type

 

What in the hell is CP - Child Porn?

 

Not funny. At all.

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I like the idea of a hidden forum where people knowing each other can share private things

 

whats wrong about it? also there need to be at least 2 hidden forums: one for the mods and one for the admins so why not complain about this

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maybe you should just say there is one (even if there is not) and the members not in it are not fitting - end of story

 

then there is no need to go into defense

 

In a perfect world, that would be the case... unfortunately, this is WATMM :cisfor:

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maybe you should just say there is one (even if there is not) and the members not in it are not fitting - end of story

 

then there is no need to go into defense

 

nothing wrong with a ltm forum in theory, but I do wonder how much humor and vibrancy has been lost from genbanter due to being diverted to the ltm forum.

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this thread is boring i'm going to go masturbate

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im swinging towards kakapos view, its immature to have it, not to be jealous. it effectively ruins community spirit, fair enough if no-one who isnt in it doesnt know about it, but when they do. sounds pathetic but most of the 'lifetime members' are the people who make this place an interesting place to sit and browse for an hour a day, as much as i would love to be one of those interesting, witty people im simply not.

 

im could never entirely tell wether it coincided with me quitting weed, but the last 7-8 months on this forum have been boring as hell. its more of a habit than an actual enjoyment now. i havent actually laughed out loud at things on this forum for around a year, before that i used to be in hysterics. who knows. im not offering opinion on wether it exists. essentially it boils down to is joyrex a liar, or is sinicalypse. and thats a tough one.

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