Alcofribas Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 nothing to say here, i just think this track needs it's own thread since it's one of the best tracks of all time. thank 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcom Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) It's an amazing EP, and it's a shame that it - and Balil's Parasight - were cut from Trainer, they were to be on the fourth vinyl and third CD, but only test pressings of them exist. As far as I know Rising High keeps a very, VERY tight leash on their IP, so abandon all hope ye who wish for an official digital release. Balil's Parasight is available on CD, but this EP's digital version is practically nonexistant - yet: Otaku and Flux (Balil & Arno) can be found here, Pillars & Mirrors here, Flux here - so you can compile your own. Edited July 5, 2021 by dcom 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extralife Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I’d say Parasight ep was the high water mark of that era. I proudly own a cd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcom Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, Extralife said: I’d say Parasight ep was the high water mark of that era. I proudly own a cd I would add Cost II (as a track) to that apogee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xy_politics Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) Edit: actually listening to this, it's rubbish, some kind of mastering mistake? just repeats the last half twice with a silent gap in between Here's the 12 min 39 version, from Further Self Evident Truths 1 Mislabelled on the video (and the CD!) as Pillars and Mirrors.. Edited July 5, 2021 by xy_politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 one of my favourite tracks from any genre or era. basically a perfect experienc, even moreso for how simple it all is. it's like being on acid for the very first time, staring at some grass or a concrete sidewalk or a patch of old fence. kinda track that you listen to it & after you feel like you can appreciate the hidden symmetry in everything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumbass Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Absolutely stunning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlisuite Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 there's a whole minute of chirping intermission in the middle. what do you think about it @Alcofribas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronical Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I never really got into Black Dog, where do I start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumbass Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 13 hours ago, chronical said: I never really got into Black Dog, where do I start? Either Bytes or Spanners, that's how you get a feel for their weirder, more experimental ventures. They also happen to be my personal favorite BD albums, they just stand out so much. Just go in chornological order from there, you can hear their progression into more minimal techno that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewSchoolScience Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) On 7/6/2021 at 12:31 AM, chronical said: I never really got into Black Dog, where do I start? I'd recommend the albums Bytes and Spanners like @thumbass has said. Two of the best albums of all time. Anything they did after the Plaid split just isn't the same, although I really like Silenced (the tone reminds me of Spanners). Oh ... and can we get some big love for 3/4 Heart pls -- the very best they've done I think (except for Psycosyin). Edited August 19, 2021 by NewSchoolScience Pyscosyin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcom Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 The predecessor album to Bytes and Spanners, Temple Of Transparent Balls, (GPR, remastered and re-released on Soma) is essential listening; The Book of Dogma (Soma) is a great compilation of their early 12" tracks on GPR, giving a completist view to most of their pre-Plaid split material. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewSchoolScience Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 BTW, how bad is the mastering on Bytes? I'd really love to see Warp release a remastered version of this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Little Helper Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 41 minutes ago, NewSchoolScience said: BTW, how bad is the mastering on Bytes? I'd really love to see Warp release a remastered version of this. Not sure if I want a remastered version, but I'll gladly take it if it comes with the never released Balil album. Or, should I say the supposedly Balil album that never saw light of day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcom Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Satans Little Helper said: Or, should I say the supposedly Balil album that never saw light of day. Never heard of a Balil album before, supposed or otherwise - please elaborate. Edited August 19, 2021 by dcom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extralife Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, dcom said: Never heard of a Balil album before, supposed or otherwise - please elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Little Helper Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 37 minutes ago, dcom said: Never heard of a Balil album before, supposed or otherwise - please elaborate. some talk about it here ^^^ (possibly a balil LP should have been released on rising high) and below a thread about an upload with unreleased stuff. roughly 10 years ago. in short: as far as i can tell only rumours and some unreleased stuff suggesting there might be more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewSchoolScience Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 I've definitely heard of this fabled Balil album. IIRC it was something to do with Rising High Records dropping the ball and getting into licencing issues with Warp? I have the tBd live jam sessions volume 1. Ken wasn't happy about that making it into the public domain. Volume 2 never seemed to see the light of day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Little Helper Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Yeah. Listening to it now. Hadn't heard it in ages. Sounds really rough and clearly sourced from a cassette. Would still love to have these properly mastered and all that. Even if some tracks were lesser demo's for released tracks. Love that old tbd sound. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewSchoolScience Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Yeah, I believe the cassette was given away at a really early tBd live gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extralife Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, NewSchoolScience said: Yeah, I believe the cassette was given away at a really early tBd live gig. I always thought that was from ‘97 (post Ed and Andy exit)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewSchoolScience Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) It's from 1992 I believe. It's got some rough cut / demo versions of tracks from Bytes (Caz etc.) and Spanners (Psil-cosyin etc.) on it. Edited August 19, 2021 by NewSchoolScience 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Little Helper Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 10 hours ago, Extralife said: I always thought that was from ‘97 (post Ed and Andy exit)? That's a different one! You mean this: https://www.discogs.com/The-Black-Dog-Live-Demo-1997/master/866338 That's not the tape discussed in the 5.3.11 thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhattedman Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Nobody has mentioned it, so I'll throw it out there: the Black Dog Peel Sessions. Shadehead - a belter. Seem to remember Peel really enjoyed the session as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raljax Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Forgot about Shadehead...used to carry that ep around so i could listen to it wherever i ended up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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