Guest abusivegeorge Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 So what do you guys think? My personal experience is that I was online with a big group of friends from the states (many different ones) all of this evening/tonight and they wanted Obama to win, although they all seem to like Paul Ryan and hope that he will run for election next year. A little part of them hoped that Romney would win because of this Paul dude. Were you rooting for Obama or did Romney seem to have a fresh approach to you? The one thing my friends did say is that Romney was particularly keen to amend the care/health system in place at the moment. Although they were unanimous in this probably just being a tact to get more votes, and something that wouldn't change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I genuinely feared for our foreign policy if Romney were to win. Even though I voted for the Green party this time, I am at least a little relieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Paul Ryan is a soulless asshole whose economic prescriptions would have rapidly increased the wealth gap and made life for poor to middle-class Americans even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dr. Bunsen Honeydew Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Today I was thinking that during the presidential debates they should be connected to lie detectors, instead of showing the graph of how viewers are responding to what they say it should show the polygraph results. Also voting machines should start with a survey, ask voters how they side on specific issues and suggest a candidate for them. Personally I was rooting against Romney, not so much for Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Waging war on Russia would be a "fresh approach." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nene multiple assgasms Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I'm comparing nate silver's forecast with the washington post's results map, and I don't see any differences. it looks like he called it pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 There is quite a lot of overlap on Romney and Obama's foreign policy but I too am relieved too. Romney would of been tempted to deployed more troops for longer periods in hotspots, spend more of defense programs that need to be cut, and the whole crazy religious right, the ones wanting us to shape middle east policy based on biblical prophecies, don't have an ally in office. All the covert actions will stay pretty much the same, as will civil rights violations often mentioned by many on watmm. I mostly rooted for Obama simply as a middle-finger to all the anti-environmental, anti-women's rights, anti-social work, anti-reform, anti-progression, anti-logic bullshit the GOP peddled in 2012. I've become a pragmatic, moderate cynic anyway so Obama warmed up to me over the years anyway. There's a lot of dismal Tea Party/Republican legislative efforts many states are going to deal with soon that Obama's win won't magically prevent. But it's nice to know Romney isn't at the helm and he won't be in the position to clear appointments for the next 4 years. It'll be fun to see how the Romney voters act in the coming days and weeks. Some will spew the hyperbole-ridden gloom and doom but I remember that so many GOP voters weren't fans of Romney anyway, some even flat-out despised the fact he was chosen, so I'm sure many in that camp will simply be saying "meh." I dunno, more stoked about the marijuana bills that passed: maybe a true state versus federal government policy showdown is to come in courts regarding weed (finally). Final word: neither candidate had a fresh approach. Neither was that different. It's hard to say what either could of done in office or how "revolutionary" Obama might be in his last term. There's only one big difference: Romney has lied, manipulated, or obscured his past beliefs on just about every issue ever. Obama won in 2008 because the electorate was so naive and so flippantly anti-W. He's done a half-assed job on many things, but never flat-out lied as thoroughly or frequently as Romney. The sad thing is it was a necessity for Romney to shed every sense of sincerity and honestly in order to run as the Republican candidate for office. If he hadn't changed at all since his governorship and been consistent on most issues I could honestly say he'd be worth voting for as much as Obama. Beyond the fiercely anti-Obama voters, I wonder how many remotely sensible people, the moderates, independents, etc. who voted for him will regret doing so in retrospect. It was such a lame, confused, and at times flat-out whiny and childish campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I'm comparing nate silver's forecast with the washington post's results map, and I don't see any differences. it looks like he called it pretty well. the florida call was particularly impressive, i think most of the polls were pointing the other way until today. welp, i dont really know what to say about this. its good that Romney isn't president; its bad that Obama is still president. that's probably the best I can sum my perception on this up. I will be honest and say Im more worried for the disillusioned part of the population that bought into the FOX/Breitbart/Freeper propaganda machine that has once again failed them....will they become further detached from the social reality they live in? Or will the Republican party reform itself to avoid a complete collapse into obscurity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghOsty Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Personally I was rooting against Romney, not so much for Obama. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abusivegeorge Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Paul Ryan is a soulless asshole whose economic prescriptions would have rapidly increased the wealth gap and made life for poor to middle-class Americans even worse. Admittedly the people I speak with on a daily basis are mostly 30 and under, and even then the average is probably about 22, they all seem to take a keen interest in politics, much more so than that age group in the UK and was wondering if this is why they rate Paul Ryan as a younger candidate. Final word: neither candidate had a fresh approach. Neither was that different. It's hard to say what either could of done in office or how "revolutionary" Obama might be in his last term. There's only one big difference: Romney has lied, manipulated, or obscured his past beliefs on just about every issue ever. Obama won in 2008 because the electorate was so naive and so flippantly anti-W. He's done a half-assed job on many things, but never flat-out lied as thoroughly or frequently as Romney. The sad thing is it was a necessity for Romney to shed every sense of sincerity and honestly in order to run as the Republican candidate for office. If he hadn't changed at all since his governorship and been consistent on most issues I could honestly say he'd be worth voting for as much as Obama. Beyond the fiercely anti-Obama voters, I wonder how many remotely sensible people, the moderates, independents, etc. who voted for him will regret doing so in retrospect. It was such a lame, confused, and at times flat-out whiny and childish campaign. This is almost a word for word reiteration of that of a 15 year old friend of mine, who spends his out of school hours playing worms and eating Candy, I'm impressed (sincerely) I'm comparing nate silver's forecast with the washington post's results map, and I don't see any differences. it looks like he called it pretty well. the florida call was particularly impressive, i think most of the polls were pointing the other way until today. welp, i dont really know what to say about this. its good that Romney isn't president; its bad that Obama is still president. that's probably the best I can sum my perception on this up. Again, exactly as my friends said, but they're definitely happier about Obama staying in power over Romney inheriting it. Sorry, I don't have much to say or anything to add to the thread particularly but I do enjoy the discussion, similarities and differences of opinion. Probably because I've had more exposure to this election than any other in my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 i missed when the rest of the world hated America and constantly made fun of our president. *nostalgic for Ronald Reagan and W* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 phone is ring "obama is elect" "no" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 phone is ring "obama is elect" "no" flol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 i missed when the rest of the world hated America and constantly made fun of our president. *nostalgic for Ronald Reagan and W* maybe when we have a second civil war and the world economy is in the shitter, they can hate us and our government again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Squee Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Did I just hear Obama say, "...all the hard shit we've been through"? Anyway, I'm glad he won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roasty Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 hardship lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 aw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skotosa Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Legal weed now yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBLA Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 LOL... I knew he said hardship but in my head I heard Hard Shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Oh god, I just took a gander at AnnCoulter.com forums to see how well they took it. And I glimpsed a part of humanity that made me deeply sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Congrats America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adjective Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Ryan / Palin 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeshi Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Today, I made calls for Obama from 9:30am to 7:30pm. Much of the day was filled with hang-ups, personal insults, being cursed at and a fair share of frustration, annoyance and hostility, directed at me (I will spare you the details), as I willingly donated my time. The whole time, I was respectful and never once argued or tried to persuade or change opinions. All of it was well worth it. I must have drank 20-30 cups of coffee to stay focused in my belief that our president was worth the sweat, effort and emotion to re-elect. At times, I questioned if I was making a difference, as many people clearly had been called by other volunteers, numerous times. However, at the end of the day with 20 minutes left, one voter I called hadn't voted and I'm positive that I was the deciding factor in her going out to the polls. Even if all of it resulted in one vote that I helped to count, I have no doubt that that vote was valuable and deserving of a full day's worth of hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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