Japan's lack of interest in sex and intimacy

[Guest]

i wonder how that compares to the new american generation thats so fat and unhealthy they probably wont have the confidence to seek mates

 

One man's trash is another man's tub girl.

 

 

 

...I'm so sorry.

[ambermonk]

i wonder if this is actually true though. I figure that japanese people, especially younger ones of the digital technology generation have much more niche and abstract sexual fetishes than a typical western society.

I always had this impression of japan that it was very hyper sexual almost like Idiocricy esque. I got lost in a rabbit hole one day of reading about all the different types of japanese whore houses and sex clubs. Anybody who lives in japan or is very familiar with it speak to this? Is it just for tired half asleep japanese business men who are too busy for sex with wives?

 

I didn't get the impression of hyper-sexuality when I lived there, at least not in Hokkaido (the North). I do remember going to class one day and some weird fucker who lived in my dorm was asking me if I liked big tits. Most of my Japanese friends were pretty down-to-earth tho.

 

I'm not gonna deny the presence of fucked-up fetishes, but I think sexuality is mostly repressed in public. But you can find a lot of establishments that have manga bookshelves that include hentai.

[may be rude]

it'll never happen, but a part of me wants sexual desire to die altogether.

 

we as a species have been so severely handicapped by sex.

 

 

 

we need unisex. for reals.

 

 

PS. Dont take this as an apologist rant against males. Females are fucking stupid too. Sex needs to end. Period.

it's only a matter of time before genetically designed super soldiers birth a new era of man-made evolution, and reproductive instincts are taken out of some of the new species, who will coldly condescend to us backward primitives, as they sell us fuel harvested from saturn.

[joshuatxuk]

 

i wonder if this is actually true though. I figure that japanese people, especially younger ones of the digital technology generation have much more niche and abstract sexual fetishes than a typical western society.

I always had this impression of japan that it was very hyper sexual almost like Idiocricy esque. I got lost in a rabbit hole one day of reading about all the different types of japanese whore houses and sex clubs. Anybody who lives in japan or is very familiar with it speak to this? Is it just for tired half asleep japanese business men who are too busy for sex with wives?

 

I didn't get the impression of hyper-sexuality when I lived there, at least not in Hokkaido (the North). I do remember going to class one day and some weird fucker who lived in my dorm was asking me if I liked big tits. Most of my Japanese friends were pretty down-to-earth tho.

 

I'm not gonna deny the presence of fucked-up fetishes, but I think sexuality is mostly repressed in public. But you can find a lot of establishments that have manga bookshelves that include hentai.

 

 

Dude talking about big boobs...I think that's a universal figure in all societies.

 

I think ambermonk is hitting on the reality - there is a sense of general modesty and repression in Japan, but in random outlets it's generally accepted (game show absurdity, the ease of finding hentai in stores was something even I noticed when I lived in Okinawa as a kid) but on the other hand all legally published pornography is censored out and blurred. Naturally, wikipedia has a lot of info on this: Censorship_in_Japan

 

I really wonder what American society will be like with the ease of porn being acquired by younger generations, especially coupled with social media - I suppose the issues related to "sexting" and double standards on shaming and bullying are evidence of issues stemming from that.

 

Also, American media is still so arbitrary in it's censorship - violence on network tv is rampant and frequent and graphic and yet you can't show bare buttocks without being fined. Likewise sex in the most superficial and unhealthy form is evident in so much advertising. I remember years ago, while Victoria Secret ran ads and even had a hour long "fashion show" live on network tv, another lingerie ad was pulled from being aired because it was too "racy" and yet the only difference was that in that ad the model was far bustier and curvy and there was heavy-handed implication of sex. (It also turned into a debate about "plus-size" versus industry standard models, but that's a completely different discussion.)

[sheatheman]

ALL I KNOW IS THAT IN 2080 THERE WILL ONLY BE 10,000 PEOPLE ON THE ENTIRE PLANET AND THEY WILL ALL BE MUSLIMS!!!!

[doublename]

Only desert nomads will survive the coming plague.

[sheatheman]

 

it'll never happen, but a part of me wants sexual desire to die altogether.

 

we as a species have been so severely handicapped by sex.

 

 

 

we need unisex. for reals.

 

 

PS. Dont take this as an apologist rant against males. Females are fucking stupid too. Sex needs to end. Period.

it's only a matter of time before genetically designed super soldiers birth a new era of man-made evolution, and reproductive instincts are taken out of some of the new species, who will coldly condescend to us backward primitives, as they sell us fuel harvested from saturn.

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjSHHO-Vhjo

Only desert nomads will survive the coming plague.

 

[zkom]

I keep mixing up the Bronies thread with this thread..

[awepittance]

 

I really wonder what American society will be like with the ease of porn being acquired by younger generations, especially coupled with social media -

i shudder to think about what it must be like in 2013 to be raising a small child. When things like Bing video search and google image search can literally call up infinite amounts of hardcore pornography by simply clicking 'safe search off' it's kinda freaky to think about. I'm very far from a puritan or a prude, but it still weirds me out to think about.

 

It's interesting how the conservative evangelical right didn't ever made a huge deal about this trend, instead focusing on examples like Lady Gaga and Miley Cyrus to show how overly sexual our culture is becoming.

[Guest zaphod]

Only desert nomads will survive the coming plague.

 

 

they do have desertwalk

[ambermonk]

I keep mixing up the Bronies thread with this thread..

Brotakus

[sheatheman]

 

Only desert nomads will survive the coming plague.

 

 

they do have desertwalk

 

 

That warms my heart.

 

I think we should start destroying data centers.

[zkom]

 

I keep mixing up the Bronies thread with this thread..

Brotakus

 

 

[joshuatxuk]

 

 

I really wonder what American society will be like with the ease of porn being acquired by younger generations, especially coupled with social media -

i shudder to think about what it must be like in 2013 to be raising a small child. When things like Bing video search and google image search can literally call up infinite amounts of hardcore pornography by simply clicking 'safe search off' it's kinda freaky to think about. I'm very far from a puritan or a prude, but it still weirds me out to think about.

 

It's interesting how the conservative evangelical right didn't ever made a huge deal about this trend, instead focusing on examples like Lady Gaga and Miley Cyrus to show how overly sexual our culture is becoming.

 

 

I had two friends in college, both people you would never even assume were evangelical or devout Christians (one of them is actually Catholic and fairly liberal) and they had extremely strict pornography blockers in their browsers. No idea if they still do that. To be honest I respected that, because neither of them were ever preachy to their peers and tolerated a huge degree of indirect exposure to such stuff among their dorm peers. I think the Christian Right either creates such a bubble for themselves and/or they feel like it's like an open secret that everyone backslides in privacy. It does seem like such an elephant in the room though.

 

I remember NPR doing a story where they interviewed parents of elementary school children who all, via one student, encountered hardcore pornography on a school computer. All the children were disturbed and mentally shaken and confused by what they saw. The fact that it wasn't erotic in nature (I assume) probably exacerbated it. So like, the natural instinct for children is to be confused and alarmed when exposed to such graphic imagery and no context. As a kid, like so many generations before (there are exceptions of course), sex was such a gradual thing to encounter. It's funny and surreal to think about all of the SFW and cheeky and innocent images in media that were so titillating when you're young and naive. That kind of slow and steady exposure just seems far healthier. My hope is that this generation will be at worst the guinea pigs of a new age where it's 0-100 instantly and there's little concrete social norms to contextualize that.

 

I'm not a puritan or prude either, in fact while I'll be a protective and cautious father, I'm also one who finds more liberal/progressive views on sex to be something this country needs. There's little moderation. That's why pregnancy rates are so high in rural, conservative parts of America with no sex education. Likewise, many questionable marriages stem from cultural stigma attached to children out of wedlock, and if that's not the case it just adds more families and individuals into a broken, underfunded social services system.

[joshuatxuk]

Suddenly that OPN video we discussed the shit out of seems relevant.

[sheatheman]

It is really bad. There are many christian articles on it, it's easy to think of the christian right as this unified thing, but it's really just people on fox portraying it that way. That said, there are many secular articles on it as well.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2432591/Porn-pernicious-threat-facing-children-today-By-ex-lads-mag-editor-MARTIN-DAUBNEY.html

[zkom]

Meh, kids today have it so easy. We had to dig out porn mags from the paper recycle bins back in the primary school. Then one day we found a 3.5" floppy from friend's home labeled "Daddy's games". That was when the journey to the world of computerized porn began..

 

I can't remember that I was ever shocked by pornographic imagery. Even when I was like 8 years old. It just looked weird and because it was forbidden it had instant value.

[ganus]

Please tell me there was a wolf mask involved