Nebraska Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 parents (both cops) kill daughter's unarmed boyfriend http://youtu.be/-hfCZ9RXAkY http://youtu.be/3MNZb-Cui10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublename Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Unarmed 18-year shot in MO: http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/aug/11/missouri-vigil-michael-brown-unarmed-teen-shot-dead-police-video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 unarmed black man, ezell ford, shot by lapd ezell ford, 25, was unarmed and, according to his family, was lying on the ground when he was fatally shot by a los angeles police officer aug. 11, 2014. http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/08/unarmed_black_man_ezell_ford_shot_by_police_in_la.html http://ktla.com/2014/08/12/man-hospitalized-after-being-shot-by-police-in-south-l-a/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 cop shoots daughter (unarmed) after mistaking her for a robber WINCHESTER — The Frederick County Sheriff’s Office has identified the father who shot his 16-year-old daughter Tuesday as Easton McDonald. Capt. Donnie Lang said today that McDonald is a Loudoun County Sheriff’s deputy. His daughter, a Millbrook High School student, remains at Winchester Medical Center and is in better condition than Tuesday, when she was stable, according to Lang. Her name was not released because of her age. Deputies responded sometime around 3:45 a.m. Tuesday to McDonald’s residence at 417 Lily’s Way, off of Greenwood Road. He was allegedly getting ready for work when he heard his interior alarm sound, indicating the garage door had been opened. As McDonald approached the attached garage, he heard a bang and other sounds coming from inside and grabbed his firearm, Lang previously said. When he opened the door, McDonald allegedly saw a person coming toward him and fired his weapon. He then turned on the light and realized that he had shot his teen daughter, who was trying to sneak back into the home after sneaking out earlier that morning. McDonald then attempted to drive her to the hospital, but crashed his vehicle on the way at East Lane and Cork Street in the city. http://www.winchesterstar.com/article/break813 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBLA Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Shit is goin' down! Cops are more armed out here than the actual military! This shit didn't go down when there was a standoff at that Bundy ranch... In fact, the cops stood down! These cops need to be put in their place! But by who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 the bundy ranch boys, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBLA Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Yeah... I don't see those dudes helping out anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 These cops need to be put in their place! But by who? All the 2nd Amendment advocates who claim they need guns to fight gov't tyranny, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 To be fair the situation in MO is pretty much a direct example of the government using it's weapons and power to intimidate and abuse the citizenry...I can't side with people who want to ban guns until these types of things are non-existent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Meanwhile, the entire city of Boston gets shut down for a military style manhunt for 2 people, and the crowd cheers. You can't have both. This is why the militarization is here to stay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Post-9/11 funds and laws have armed so many local agencies with military equipment. A lot of private firms (including the big notorious ones liek Blackwater) are contracted to train them as well The Governor of MO has ordered Ferguson Police (who were the ones in armored vehicles and camo) off of patrols of their own city. This is a good move in general. Legally it helps get backing from the FBI and state guard; city and town police departments are a lot easier to sue than state and federal agencies. Secondly, like them or not, the Ferguson police department needs a break. Lastly, and the main reason the governor is spinning, it's a good PR move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 hey guys, Occupy just started again...http://new.livestream.com/JamesFromTheInternet/events/3277196 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Nice. Brilliant slogan, btw. " Hands up! Don't shoot!" I'm afraid the needed demilitarization of the police won't come off the ground unless the gun laws are tightened, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the two feel closely connected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 http://rt.com/on-air/ferguson-protest-police-conflict/ live streams of marches and blockades starting to appear from all across the country following Ferguson last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patternoverlap Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Looks like the Ferguson police are starting to figure it out. They probably didn't like having having their phones and email disabled by Anonymous either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBLA Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I'm no conspiracy theorist... but I find it weird that so called survailance video that surfaced of Mike Brown robbing a store moments before his shooting a week later... that's enough time I think to fabricate a video and hire some look alike actors and come up with something... there was no reports of this all week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Al Hounos Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Nice. Brilliant slogan, btw. " Hands up! Don't shoot!" I'm afraid the needed demilitarization of the police won't come off the ground unless the gun laws are tightened, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the two feel closely connected. funny, i just opened this thread to say this. it's an angle that doesn't get much play in the media. http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-2013-preliminary-statistics-for-law-enforcement-officers-killed-in-the-line-of-duty 27 officers killed last year, 26 of 27 were by gun. If people didn't have guns to shoot cops with, cops wouldn't need guns to shoot people with. Also, 19 of those 26 cop killings were done with a handgun. Instead of saying "ban guns" why not just "ban handguns"? It would be much easier to 'sell' politically. Nobody talks about it, but size matters. Weapons that are portable and easily concealed are going to be better suited for committing crimes: How are you going to mug someone when they can see from half a block away that you are carrying a gun? Would it be easy to rob a store when everybody outside the store sees you walking in with an assault rifle? Could police ever use the "we thought he had a gun" defense? Also, "ban handguns" would severely weaken gun owner opposition. It would focus the debate purely on "guns as self defense outside the home". You could have an assault rifle to defend your home. You could have a shotgun to go hunting. Hell, you could even have weapons to defend yourself against a tyrannical government, the classic Tea Party argument. Finally, if "ban handguns" ever passed, we all know that gun crimes would drop dramatically, which would bolster the argument for banning all guns. Part of me is sympathetic to the "defense against the tyrannical government" argument, as wildly unrealistic as it is. But after making gun crime a truly rare occurrence, I think we could probably just drop the whole issue altogether and live peacefully while people use their rifles and shotguns for legal purposes. Everybody's happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 27 officers killed last year, 26 of 27 were by gun. If people didn't have guns to shoot cops with, cops wouldn't need guns to shoot people with. here's my problem with what you're saying. just because someone doesn't have a gun doesn't stop them from still wanting to kill someone. i'd agree with your sentence if simply having a gun automatically makes someone want to shoot someone else. not everyone who has a gun is going around gunning people. imo, the problem is, why do people want to kill each other? they have just as many guns in canada and you don't see these kind of stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mafted Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 first world problems? geeeesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plarkreluke Banloboh Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 http://rt.com/on-air/ferguson-protest-police-conflict/ live streams of marches and blockades starting to appear from all across the country following Ferguson last night Impressive impromptu stop-traffic march through the city. Looks like the Ferguson police are starting to figure it out. They probably didn't like having having their phones and email disabled by Anonymous either.You don't find the "well everything turned out happy and smiles in the end" tone of that article to be blatant perception management? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Nice. Brilliant slogan, btw. " Hands up! Don't shoot!" I'm afraid the needed demilitarization of the police won't come off the ground unless the gun laws are tightened, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the two feel closely connected. I don't think the militarization was done out of a necessity for proper performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I have no idea what you mean. It would help to say what you do think, instead of what you don't. I'm piss poor at reading minds over the internet. Also, this 2 mins explanation is pretty interesting. Not sure whether this is going to work though... <script height="321px" width="568px" src="http://player.ooyala.com/iframe.js#ec=l5aW5ubzofpDDug0vp8Nyx7xr10pEQNC&pbid=a637d53c5c0a43c7bf4e342886b9d8b0"></script> http://player.ooyala.com/iframe.html#ec=l5aW5ubzofpDDug0vp8Nyx7xr10pEQNC&pbid=a637d53c5c0a43c7bf4e342886b9d8b0&docUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrc.nl%2Fnieuws%2F2014%2F08%2F17%2Farrestaties-ferguson-na-ingaan-avondklok%2F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I have no idea what you mean. It would help to say what you do think, instead of what you don't. I'm piss poor at reading minds over the internet. Also, this 2 mins explanation is pretty interesting. Not sure whether this is going to work though... <script height="321px" width="568px" src="http://player.ooyala.com/iframe.js#ec=l5aW5ubzofpDDug0vp8Nyx7xr10pEQNC&pbid=a637d53c5c0a43c7bf4e342886b9d8b0"></script> http://player.ooyala.com/iframe.html#ec=l5aW5ubzofpDDug0vp8Nyx7xr10pEQNC&pbid=a637d53c5c0a43c7bf4e342886b9d8b0&docUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrc.nl%2Fnieuws%2F2014%2F08%2F17%2Farrestaties-ferguson-na-ingaan-avondklok%2F I'm saying I don't think that militarization was enacted out of a necessity to perform police duties. I think it was done mostly as a way to transfer money between rich people, and it has a secondary effect of allowing "elite" people to manage the populous through intimidation and fear. It was at least partially done to enforce the insane drug laws that continually threaten the liberty of the citizens of the USA. Once people realized how profitable drug law enforcement was they just took advantage of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Thanks for clearing that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patternoverlap Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Looks like the Ferguson police are starting to figure it out. They probably didn't like having having their phones and email disabled by Anonymous either.You don't find the "well everything turned out happy and smiles in the end" tone of that article to be blatant perception management? Oh no, it is absolutely a perception management thing. Whether the police magically become okay with black people is irrelevant, only that they treat them with some semblance of fairness as they are, in theory, guaranteed under the law. Also, it's back to violence and there has been some rumblings of agitators getting into the crowds to kick things off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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