dingformung Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Why do musicians keep ruining some of their otherwise fantastic tracks with cheesy simple Kitsch melodies and vocals? Examples: There are worse examples but can't remember them right now I mean it doesn't always have to be super abrasive and cold as ice but often the melodies are just simple and infantile but not in a good way in my opinion. Do you know more examples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 What's cheesy about that nautilis track? You don't like the vocal line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 What's cheesy about that nautilis track? You don't like the vocal line? How is it not cheesy? Those vocals, the high reverb strings and so on... cheesy. even though the percussion and glitches are very well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.. after all, I'm not much of an authority for what is or isn't cheesy; I'm a sucker for upfront melodies and reverb. What would the track be without it? I personally think the drum production/glitches are cheesy, at least by today's standards. It was the style in the early 2000s though.. IDM in general hadn't quite caught up to Autechre's level of abstractness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 Sure, it's another time and maybe it's just me being fussy - but I've often heard Electronica that was technically good but ruined by a simple naive pop-like melody, I dunno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 There's so much electronic music out there that you really don't have to bother listening to the stuff with elements you don't like, though :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisbot Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Cheese is a matter of opinion obv, if something moves you or fails to, it just does. I have a friend who thinks aphex twin/squarepusher is wholly cheesy, though he likes BOC. The only tracks he likes by aphex twin are avril, alberto, and xmas evet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olo Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 :40 in. Bob James is the master of making badass phrases followed up with ghey. [youtubehd]V56yeZtqQTs[/youtubehd] and another :30 [youtubehd]gaoCsmFDLcY[/youtubehd] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 This happens in metal a lot, sometimes it's a good thing, especially in older epic songs when some guitar solo comes in and you can't help, other times it's a really nice vibe and then WHAM shitty half baked noodling synth / guitar / bass part I had a thread of a similar topic. Here's another about bad synth parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 There's so much electronic music out there that you really don't have to bother listening to the stuff with elements you don't like, though :D Yes but you can still amuse yourself from music with these elements (with no disrespect to the artist). Thought it would be funny to have a thread aboout it but appearently there already is such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WNS000 Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Good thread. Keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 There was a Paul Leary interview in Tape Op a couple years ago where he said something to the effect of "nothing makes me happier than when I hear someone play a ridiculously stupid guitar solo" and I kind of feel that way about cheesy melodies, myself*. If anything, I think the problem is often that the cheesy melodies aren't cheesy enough to be interesting. *and guitar solos, for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidrodi Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 only track of the album I can't listen to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLj6cKDXmdQ only track of the album I can't listen to Kinda blunt, but not cheesy?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisbot Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I like cheese in music. Makes the music maker seem not uptight.. downtight.. downloose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodorsbn Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 that second Flashbulb track is one of my favorites by him, but he sucks right? so what do I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 that second Flashbulb track is one of my favorites by him, but he sucks right? so what do I know I didn't say that he sucks, but the melody in your faourite track by him sucks in my opinion, no offend, otherwise it's good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handels Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Dancing hard to that Helena Hauff track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnar Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I don't see the problem (listened to the first two tracks), i like these kind of melodies. gives the music a bit of heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidrodi Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 only track of the album I can't listen to Kinda blunt, but not cheesy?!? It put me off a bit in the context of the album. Sounded a bit too "happy" idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WNS000 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 That Stretch Industry track sounds totally like an AFX rip-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WNS000 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 What's cheesy about that nautilis track? You don't like the vocal line? The chorus-like repeating parts are pretty cheap IMO. Fuck, I am so spoiled by Autechre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juiceciuj Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 that second Flashbulb track is one of my favorites by him, but he sucks right? so what do I know I didn't say that he sucks, but the melody in your faourite track by him sucks in my opinion, no offend, otherwise it's good i think the vectory preset is way cheesier than the melody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WNS000 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 that second Flashbulb track is one of my favorites by him, but he sucks right? so what do I know I didn't say that he sucks, but the melody in your faourite track by him sucks in my opinion, no offend, otherwise it's good i think the vectory preset is way cheesier than the melody what is vectory preset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juiceciuj Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 if you have reaktor 5 load up the vectory .ens and check preset 19. the beat that runs through the whole track is a slightly modified version of the preset. datach'i did it too back in the day. same preset. in their defense it is pretty boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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