eugene Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 this mighty interesting genre was the manifestation of what was right about electronic music for me in the early 00's . completely free of all convention, very organic despite the coldness, elegant and smart. i've had a couple of hdd wipeouts since then and got swayed from electronic music to american psych stuff and kinda neglected the glitch thing. i realize now that the thing looks almost dead save for fennez and tim hecker and maybe a couple more, lost all the hype it had..even pitchfork raved about the german glitch dudes back then, and its strange cause that genre framework had seemingly limitless potential. maybe im just not tuned to the right wave but i don't remember anything interesting and glitchy happening in the last 5 years besides tim hecker. prove me wrong watmms, show some good recent glitch if it actually exists.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 a couple reasons why glitch is dying - computers and electronic entertainment are so high level now that when they glitch out they usually just freeze or turn off. With the rise of digital devices and of course while analog was still popular glitching was a fascinating thing to behold. - people have too much access to audio tools that can do literally anything they can imagine. The more tools and power available inevitably the less creative and envelope pushing artists will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Frank Bretschnider's stuff is pretty cool (tho I wasn't too into the last album) and check out Atom TM Liedgut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J3FF3R00 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Why does it seem like it's dead? Because it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruising for burgers Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 VHS HEAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KY Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 maybe im just not tuned to the right wave but i don't remember anything interesting and glitchy happening in the last 5 years the aesthetics of any music subgenre always have the potential of turning into a simple production technique, from lo-fi rock to chopped and screwed music, and that seems like what happened to glitch. glitch as a genre really worked for its time - up until '05 or so. but it seems like an aesthetic, glitch was assimilated into the musical fray of production techniques. IMO, the whole new sincerity movement in music is a good culprit—there just isn't a lot of public response to seemingly-soulless glitch music anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KY Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 yeah think that shit over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Enter a new display name Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 inb4 beariksson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KY Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 a couple reasons why glitch is dying - computers and electronic entertainment are so high level now that when they glitch out they usually just freeze or turn off. With the rise of digital devices and of course while analog was still popular glitching was a fascinating thing to behold. i think this is what i meant when i said glitch worked for it's time—there was definitely a pretty exponential growth in music technology at the time, and from that point, it became more stabilized and standardized. i still think popular culture in general has an influence on its waning popularity too though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lube Saibot Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWZKw_MgUPI this killed glitch he helped but glitch was an old lady, she didn't have many years left in her anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDobalina Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Well on the hiphop end of the spectrum it seems as there was a gradual shift across the last decade from glitched-out instrumentals to wonky beats. *strokes beard* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsaicin Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 glitchwonk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KY Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 fuck how did i forget about james blake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xolve Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Glitch lives...just not in the way it did in the early 00's and nor should it. That was a moment in time. There are folks doing it much better than BT as well. Check a few of my favorites, all within the past 5 years and all feature a "glitch" ethic at the forefront imo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI0AiFG5dXY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWEP9iJZgmg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA-lOywYGic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0MWfJE3ejI WATMM's own righteous resident hautlle Alternatively, let a Sony VAIO laptop get loaded with registry errors and too many tasks and you'll have all the glitch you'll ever care for That's some nice tracks there. I like the sutemos stuff, but have to admit the Intelligent Toys Comps have gone downhill since no. 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khov Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 well, Glitch as a genre (?) is dead but some of the best artists of that era are puting out stunning pieces at the moment. Fennesz (hmmm...everything!!) http://soundcloud.com/studio-irisarri/sets/w-fennesz) Alva Noto (loads of great releases) Mika Vainio (loads of fantastic releases) Pita (everything actually) Hecker & Haswell (Blackest ever black) Oval - O its just than the glitchers sound has evolved into something wider & better than the strictly glitch palette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Glitch isn't dead! i love glitch. therefore it is alive! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sirch Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 its just than the glitchers sound has evolved into something wider & better than the strictly glitch palette yeah, it's gotten into everything! like a virus. it's even seeped into the mainstream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hautlle Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I probably fall into the "broader use of glitch" camp. Check out my EP Boundaries Destroyed, I like glitchy beats with nice pads and melodies, abstract grit paired with flowing beauty. I like the contrast it provides. edit: LOL, fucking xxx, repping me! Thanks man ! He posted the same track I was gonna put up the youtube of. But yeah, check it if you want :sup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 it just became very easy to create so many people including myself started to use it cover up boring parts in their arrangement so it became a synonym for lazy productions while this use of glitch is still very fresh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RupupZb4Wy4 there are many connections to other creations where fx is just used for the sake of it or to upgrade boring production. for example in movies or when you have a look at cheap photoshop works where crappy source material is post-produced with generic filters. once you understand how the generic effect works you are no longer fooled by it and the crappy source becomes obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Kero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hautlle Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 it just became very easy to create so many people including myself started to use it cover up boring parts in their arrangement so it became a synonym for lazy productions while this use of glitch is still very fresh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RupupZb4Wy4 there are many connections to other creations where fx is just used for the sake of it or to upgrade boring production. for example in movies or when you have a look at cheap photoshop works where crappy source material is post-produced with generic filters. once you understand how the generic effect works you are no longer fooled by it and the crappy source becomes obvious I think a big reason glitch died off is because every kiddie could suddenly download DBlueGlitch/a few other plugins and just have it all done for them without any skill or thought. Just click play and there it is. That can only get you so far though. I might use some of those plugins, but there is a ton of thought/selection and hand editing before the result is heard by anyone. So, yes there are people that use it to cover up lack of ideas/skill, but there are people trying to do interesting things too -- Just like anything else pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I think it's a combination of people with no talent using automated vst glitch effects, and other people trying too hard to be weird & forgetting to make good music (not that I don't like non-musical noise sometimes, but only in very small doses). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxus Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 is the newest oval album good? i previewed it on bleep and it didn't grab me, but i guess snippets dont do justice to that kind of music. i still listen to 94diskont all the time, love that album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarion Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I read an interview with Alva Noto and he was saying stuff along the lines that the aesthetics of glitch were harder now because laptops no longer crashed and went weird when you pushed them too far as there was a point when the software was doing more than the hardware could handle, quite commonly, and it produced weird results but now with the extra computing power you no longer get that disjunct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splesh Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Mark Fell - UL8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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