Brisbot Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Trump won't get impeached, it's a publicity stunt by the centrist dems. Though of course, feel free to surprise me. If you're a populist-left kinda person here is some important news on the fake populist that is Elizabeth Warren. The real candidates are Bernie and Yang, she is not. I held off for a long time, and still held off doubt even though there were about 1000 red flags, but this is it concerning her, I no longer support her. The reality is, if you take big money, you are holden to the people who give you said money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rubin Farr Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Pelosi finally acts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whosebrian Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 lol democrats ruined his day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Donnie's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azatoth Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Spineless Dems finally doing something. Not sure if it will lead to anything other than more unhinged tweets from the Cheeto Benito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Brisbot said: The real candidates are Bernie and Yang lolololol no. i mean, let's hope not. but really, no. there's a thread for 2020 dem candidates btw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisbot Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 43 minutes ago, auxien said: lolololol no. i mean, let's hope not. but really, no. there's a thread for 2020 dem candidates btw What I mean by real candidates, is that I mean they mean what they say, their views align with their rhetoric. Elizabeth is a snake oil salesman since she pretends to be populist and is really probably something between a Bernie and a Hillary. And yeah forgot about that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lada Laika Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Andrew Yang is just three Redditors in a trenchcoat 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlemflolia Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Brisbot said: Trump won't get impeached, it's a publicity stunt by the centrist dems. Though of course, feel free to surprise me. If you're a populist-left kinda person here is some important news on the fake populist that is Elizabeth Warren. The real candidates are Bernie and Yang, she is not. I held off for a long time, and still held off doubt even though there were about 1000 red flags, but this is it concerning her, I no longer support her. The reality is, if you take big money, you are holden to the people who give you said money. I don't like her, she's bernie lite, ex republican, lover of capitalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 millionaire Bernie is also a lover of capitalism 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlemflolia Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, auxien said: millionaire Bernie is also a lover of capitalism he isnt, and personal wealth isn't exclusive to capitalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 so he accidentally got rich? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlemflolia Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 minute ago, auxien said: so he accidentally got rich? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ok what does getting rich have to do with capitalism? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lada Laika Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, Zeffolia said: what does getting rich have to do with capitalism? ... is that a serious question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caze Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 ...also, all of his economic policies are capitalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke viia Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 38 minutes ago, Zeffolia said: what does getting rich have to do with capitalism? well, you know, the means of production are largely or entirely privately owned by individuals and businesses and, you know, operated for profit. there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlemflolia Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 okay, what does anything you guys are saying have to do with anything I said? nobody provided any evidence that he's a "lover of capitalism" and him being a millionaire doesn't disprove that, you guys are making all kinds of generic theoretical claims that aren't related to bernard sanders, the person all of my posts were about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, auxien said: so he accidentally got rich? yeah.. he wrote that book a while ago and a bunch of people bought.. that's why his income jumped in recent years. otherwise he's rather ethical compared to the rest of congress who frequently engage in insider trading and own stocks of companies they are supposed to regulate. sanders has been in 'public service', such as it is, one way or another as an elected official for most of his adult professional life. i doubt he has much in the way stocks except for a the typical 401k. he and his wife bought a 2nd home a while back.. i think it was a cabin or something.. and a bunch of people tried to make a stink about it. he's a guy who is much more connected to the way average americans live than a lot of people in congress. i haven't 'looked deep into his soul' or anything like that but his financial life seems much more above board than what people typically think of a senator or member congress these days. i'd wager that he serves the public good more often than his own financial gain. not saying he's a saint w/o dirt but i don't know what the dirt is because i haven't kicked over every rock of all the candidates i'm interested in. if there's a spectrum of corruption and greed.. trump is on one end of it and sanders is on the other. that's good enough for me if it comes down to sanders vs trump... shouldn't it be in that other US politics thread? let's get back to shitting in disgust on the bad orange man. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 53 minutes ago, Zeffolia said: okay, what does anything you guys are saying have to do with anything I said? nobody provided any evidence that he's a "lover of capitalism" and him being a millionaire doesn't disprove that, you guys are making all kinds of generic theoretical claims that aren't related to bernard sanders, the person all of my posts were about i've never seen Bernie denounce capitalism. he's obviously living in a capitalist country, benefiting greatly from the spoils of being a career politician with a national presence to turn a hefty profit for himself.... i've been looking a little and i've not once seen Bernie say that he 'hates' capitalism....yet his actions prove he obviously doesn't hate it, at least when it comes to his own personal gain. one might even assume that he loves it given how greatly he's benefited. i'd be curious to see some evidence of him denouncing capitalism, as his supposed party affiliation states. he's obviously willing to turn his back on his 'party' depending on the day of the week tho, so no doubt he doesn't necessarily wanna follow with what they state are their own goals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlemflolia Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 his entire platform is about reigning in capitalism just read about it once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) democratic socialism i think is what i've heard people say. mostly i'm guessing the progressives are aiming for well regulated capitalism with a much better social safety net and much better social programs. people over profit essentially. so, trump bad. i'm not sure the dems have the smoking gun they're after.. we'll see where the rest of congress lines up and if any republicans come out against trump and show some spine. the people in congress w/national security experience w/the CIA or whoever are up in arms over trump using funds as leverage to smear an opponent. the funds were meant for security for ukraine. so, i guess they're pissed he's using security funding to work his own personal gain. the republicans are framing it as "he was with holding funding because the gov't there is corrupt and he wanted assurances" which seems pretty much bullshit but it's a message that will resonate w/his base and we'll see if it sticks. depends on if the other shoe drops and the whistleblower testifies or whatever. we'll see.. as per usual. i think it's pretty obvious the transcript trump is promising is being written/edited by Barr and will be bullshit. Edited September 25, 2019 by ignatius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 43 minutes ago, Zeffolia said: his entire platform is about reigning in capitalism just read about it once Which is not the same as anti-capitalist, btw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 gl getting any anticapitalist even close to usa power during this or the next century lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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