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[Guest RadarJammer]

Actually I knew there was something which did that http://www.tonbandstimmen.de/evpmaker/index_e.htm

If you load a file which has cue points it lets you check the box "Use Cue List"

 

works perfectly

[Guest]

What if you could fuck with how a digital format like FLAC/WAV/etc. is converted into playback? What if they created something like Minidisc except it was a 1 hour continuous piece with a constant tempo and your Foobar/Winamp/whatever would never read it the same way twice? Playback would begin at random points and jump in a non-linear fashion around the file and create a new listening experience every time. It would be ultimate fanboy fuckery i.e. man part x was wicked! I CAN'T GET MINE TO DO IT!, etc.

 

if only, if only. i've been working towards doing something not quite that cool, but with the same basic randomize/same tempo/etc idea, for a little while now. shit's difficult.

 

edit: i missed my main point. ...but if anyone could do that sort of thing, it would be AE. i'd love to see them release something that could actually do what you're saying. it'd be awesome.

 

this guy for instance has made something hat's heading this direction: http://www.icarus.nu/FFD/

basically you get a unique album, it's cool.

 

would be great if ae did something like that..

or finally, Gantz Graf: the game.

why not something running on a server where you have to log in to experience it, that keeps changing and changing over the years? but yeah shit's difficult :]

[baph]

I actually had a dream last night that involved an autechre live stream and the unveiling of a new album.

Then I ended up invading a french castle with my dad.

Then I woke up!

 

 

FELTCHER: Go and tell your master that we have been charged by God

with a sacred quest. If he will give us food and shelter for the

night he can join us in our quest for the holy Kiosk.

 

GUARD: Well, I'll ask him, but I don't think he'll be very keen...

Uh, he's already got one, you see?

[oscillik]

fucking lol

[thehauntingsoul]

I think the randomized playback order is a bit contrived. It's not really all that much different than hitting shuffle on your mp3 player. These things tend to get advertisement saying "10000000 different albums in one!!!" and really it's just one album that is meant to be played on shuffle.

 

I'm thinking something more interactive, like an integrated max/msp app that allows you to tweak various mysterious parameters and actually get a completely different set of sounds and rhythms than someone else would. Even mini-disc doesn't accomplish this. Sure, you can listen to it endlessly on shuffle but does that really make it a different experience?

 

I want something interactive and fully generative. I think Autechre, if anyone, could pull it off and make it a masterpiece. I'm sure some of the patches that Autechre have written have the potential for this. The trick would be trying to get it to sound relatively good most of the time without degrading into complete noise. Some of that is nice but I think that's probably the major pitfall of this sort of thing. That the output can't really be reproduced would make debugging the thing a total nightmare.

[modey]

I like the album awepittance released a while ago that was two different sets of short tracks that were to be played at random with no gaps. It was all at the same tempo so it all stayed in sync, but since there were two tracks playing at once you'd get different combinations each time. That way it was made up of distinct tracks and not just random generative nonsense.

 

fake edit: ah, here it is (Improvised Electronic Music):

http://recordlabelrecords.org/fluorescent-grey.html

[oscillik]

Even mini-disc doesn't accomplish this. Sure, you can listen to it endlessly on shuffle but does that really make it a different experience?

 

I think you're forgetting the fact that at the time, the MiniDisc format was the only one that had zero-seek time, thus making the shuffle mode actually conducive to what they were going for. The Gescom MiniDisc album is purely a product of it's time. Yes, it really was a different experience back then. Much like listening to Switched On Bach was a different experience back then. Of course, these days synthesizers and shuffle mode are all too common, and both are literally available to kids.

[thehauntingsoul]

Of course, I'm not knocking minidisc so much as suggesting how much farther a project of this sort could go given today's technology.

[auxien]

I like the album awepittance released a while ago that was two different sets of short tracks that were to be played at random with no gaps. It was all at the same tempo so it all stayed in sync, but since there were two tracks playing at once you'd get different combinations each time. That way it was made up of distinct tracks and not just random generative nonsense.

 

fake edit: ah, here it is (Improvised Electronic Music):

http://recordlabelre...scent-grey.html

 

that's pretty damned sweet. it sounds good as single tracks, can't for the life of me find a work around on OSX to set up multiple playlists synced simultaneously. tried VLC, Quicktime, iTunes, i even downloaded Winamp for christ's sake. no luck thus far. this guy took that concept way farther than i ever imagined it, and did some interesting stuff with all 10 or so drum machines he used.

 

anyone have a clue on a workaround to play all that as intended, on a mac, speak up.

[oscillik]

I like the album awepittance released a while ago that was two different sets of short tracks that were to be played at random with no gaps. It was all at the same tempo so it all stayed in sync, but since there were two tracks playing at once you'd get different combinations each time. That way it was made up of distinct tracks and not just random generative nonsense.

 

fake edit: ah, here it is (Improvised Electronic Music):

http://recordlabelre...scent-grey.html

 

that's pretty damned sweet. it sounds good as single tracks, can't for the life of me find a work around on OSX to set up multiple playlists synced simultaneously. tried VLC, Quicktime, iTunes, i even downloaded Winamp for christ's sake. no luck thus far. this guy took that concept way farther than i ever imagined it, and did some interesting stuff with all 10 or so drum machines he used.

 

anyone have a clue on a workaround to play all that as intended, on a mac, speak up.

 

you should be able to do it with some command-line trickery, just need to get two instances of VLC to execute, each one playing the separate playlist.

[gl0tch]

I think it would be telling if the next album was done entirely on an iPhone or whatever, and it kicked the fuck out of SkrillFag type shit and slayed faces with its bleepybloopy synth wank.

[Guest Xenblake]

I think it would be telling if the next album was done entirely on an iPhone or whatever, and it kicked the fuck out of SkrillFag type shit and slayed faces with its bleepybloopy synth wank.

 

I bloody well hope not.

[beerwolf]

I've said it a few times, I'd like them to make a summery sounding album. Not commercialised and poppy but just a bit more up-beat in mood but still incorparating the Autechre mayhem.

[BUNKUM]

I've said it a few times, I'd like them to make a summery sounding album. Not commercialised and poppy but just a bit more up-beat in mood but still incorparating the Autechre mayhem.

 

Summery beat fuckery?

[oscillik]

I've said it a few times, I'd like them to make a summery sounding album. Not commercialised and poppy but just a bit more up-beat in mood but still incorparating the Autechre mayhem.

 

 

what you're asking for is the antichre

[beerwolf]

It would be cool. Sean might have a different opinion though, and even the Wolfmaster wouldn't argue with him

[YELLOW]

Antichre. Love it

[zkom]

[splesh]

irl lol at antichre.

[Soloman Tump]

irl lol at antichre.

 

2 party loving women from the congo who make marching music

 

Antichre Press Shot 2012

[oscillik]

irl lol at antichre.

 

2 party loving women from the congo who make marching music

 

absolutely brilliant

[xyrofen]

irl lol at antichre.

 

2 party loving women from the congo who make marching music

 

Antichre Press Shot 2012

 

This is why I visit WATMM. Shit like this makes my days bearable.

[oscillik]

i expect that guttural throat singing thing

[thehauntingsoul]

I'm getting sick of watching my favourite IDM artists one by one descend into mundane poppy crap. First it was Squarepusher, then it was BoC, and now Clark with the utter disaster idiotphillic. RDJ at least had the sense to jump out of the game before he soiled his reputation with old-age-softness.

 

It's pretty much all riding on Autechre now, and after Oversteps/Move of Ten I'm getting a little bit worried. Their next album needs to be complete auditory destruction to restore my faith in this wonderful genre.

 

As a side-note, Plaid is also continuing to produce quality IDM, even if it did take them 10^²⁴ years to release Scintilli.

 

IDM needs something new, and it's somewhat astonishing it hasn't arrived yet given the nature of IDM. I mean, people will say "oh well it's not commercially viable anymore" and stuff, but was it ever? I thought IDM was about breaking musical boundaries. Anyways artists need to stop going soft, where is the sensory annihilation from the 00's?

 

/rantfueledbyclarksshittynewcd

[Guest ruiagnelo]