dr lopez Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 good post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckle Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 yeah I guess no matter how "ironic" his comedy is, when you peel away the layers the underlying message is always ultimately negative and disturbing. too bad a lot of it is so funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I always thought the mean-spirited bastard aspect of Sam's personality was impossible to ignore, all irony aside. It is interesting to see the occasional nugget of comedy gold come out of all that, and to see comedy from that perspective in general. But it always baffled me how many people thought the racist shit was purely ironic. Maybe the best example of cognitive dissonance in the watmm collective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usagi Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 ultra super hyper levels of meta irony at some point though, this becomes meaningless and indistinguishable from the real deal in terms of practical effect. and I think that point comes much quicker than people think, especially in an interconnected world. private opinions aren't really private anymore when they're plastered all over social media and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candiru Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Nick Rochefort was underrated, though. He could have actually been a cool character actor like Harry Dean Stanton or some grizzled mofo like that. If I were a director, I'd give him a cameo as a world weary bartender offering blunt but profound advice or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 But it always baffled me how many people thought the racist shit was purely ironic. Maybe the best example of cognitive dissonance in the watmm collective. how about the opposite: hyde not being racist = does not compute also, hyde being racist or reactionary or mean or whatever is completely irrelevant to him being funny or not imo. but i guess some people judge the value of something by its underlying motivations, which is intellectually lazy and wrong, imo. i'm not saying i'm not guilty of this sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I don't think anyone said his shitty character qualities disqualify him from being funny. It just happens that he hasn't been coming up with funny content for quite some time now. As for him not being racist... I'm not sure why anyone would be thinking that at this point. It's the fact that many people didn't seem to realize it earlier on that is surprising. The ironic vs. genuine stuff seems more obvious than a lot of people are making it out to be. But whatevs. Enjoy it if you enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 one thing i'm sure of is i could listen to him speak with that cheap jamaican accent for hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Nick Rochefort was underrated, though. He could have actually been a cool character actor like Harry Dean Stanton or some grizzled mofo like that. If I were a director, I'd give him a cameo as a world weary bartender offering blunt but profound advice or something.Definitely one of the best sketches in the series, he nailed that character... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usagi Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 one thing i'm sure of is i could listen to him speak with that cheap jamaican accent for hours. that particular skit doesn't have a hint of hate in it, it's just funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewps Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Chamonix Antiques' success was the only good thing to come out of the cancellation of WP, they got a clue about vintage designer furniture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taphead Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 so I guess none of you guys caught the "dindu nuffin" dog whistles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 the "bitch i'm angelic" one in world peace is a fav of mine though i can imagine some ppl will think it's racist. he's just doing a particular character and that character happens to be black. it's quite similar to a character david cross has done a few times on mr show and in his standup act. https://youtu.be/WKvckehN2Ag?t=45 good point, there's something Louis CK mentioned in his recent stand up about stereotypes, especially voices and accents, that's perpetually hilarious even if you are completely self-aware of how offensive it is. He can't rectify that fact which is why he still does it. This comes to mind too. Shows like the Office and 30 Rock have had bits revolving around hopelessly oblivious racism done in the name of comedy espoused by characters who aren't mean-spirited but just really, really, out of touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublename Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) That Jamaican shit he does is trash. Edited August 28, 2017 by doublename Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) he's a little older and pissed at sjw's. It's a subconscious push back from people like this. It's a being told how to think even if you don't think it that annoy's. Having to police your own thoughts just to make sure every single possible option won't be offended. Edited August 29, 2017 by marf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 ^ Hah, hadn't seen that before. I get what your saying, it's a valid point similar to ones mentioned earlier. For example Trey and Matt of South Park nailed that 20+ years ago and since then gradually became more nuanced and mature about it. Whereas Sam is on som destructive feedback loop where he's in his own echo chamber of what he finds hilarious and meaningful. I don't think he's pushing boundaries anymore so much as imploding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewps Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Remember the good times, be strong through the tough times and always remember to live laugh love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usagi Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 I AM THE BEAST I WORSHIP - Sam Hyde, 1985-2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CHrNBeYcN8 this shit made me laugh a lot not gonna lie Edited September 23, 2017 by zaphod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Flight simulator part was funny. I wonder how much more stuff got cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CHrNBeYcN8 this shit made me laugh a lot not gonna lie wtf that was 2000x funnier than anything that aired on the show. FML. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 that first bit was hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QQQ Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 yeah that vid is mad good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 seriously I can't fucking get over how good that cut is compared to the entirety of the show holy shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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