zero Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Great! Except he's still going to be president when we wake up tomorrow, we're still going to have to hear & read all the nonsense he spews out, he's still going to have a huge chunk of the country supporting him, and best of all...he might be re-elected next year so we get to continue having this discussion for 4-5 more years!! Unless there are a few renegade 'publicans in the Senate that are cooking up a coup, we're going to be stuck with the shit show for the foreseeable future... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Do this one right, America. For fuck’s sake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Squee said: Do this one right, America. For fuck’s sake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, zero said: Great! Except he's still going to be president when we wake up tomorrow, we're still going to have to hear & read all the nonsense he spews out, he's still going to have a huge chunk of the country supporting him, and best of all...he might be re-elected next year so we get to continue having this discussion for 4-5 more years!! Unless there are a few renegade 'publicans in the Senate that are cooking up a coup, we're going to be stuck with the shit show for the foreseeable future... My point is, history will never take him seriously as POTUS now. Next year, the impeachment will be in school text books, forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Good, the "impeached" is finally tattooed on his yuge butt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 no one cares that Clinton got impeached, because it was stupid. the R supporters in all their great intelligence have been and will continue to paint this as ‘stupid’ (of course it isn’t but reality doesn’t matter) and it will be a minor note on Trump’s ridiculous presidency. the larger issues that allow this to be a minor issue are far, far more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, Rubin Farr said: My point is, history will never take him seriously as POTUS now. Next year, the impeachment will be in school text books, forever. I'm secretly hoping his presidential legacy is stricken from future text books forever. Bush 2000 - 2008 Obama 2008 - 2016 ??? 2016 - 2020 (there was this guy that was president back from 2016 - 2020, but he wasn't any good, so let's not talk about it and move on, OK) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Nope. This shitstain of a presidency will also be a shitstain on US history. For everyone to see. He won the 2016 election. Can not undo. CTRL-Z is not an option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Obama was a fuck-up, too, and so was Bush. But Trump is another level of obnoxiousness. Probably the post-modern approach 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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may be rude Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nebraska said: that wasn't the vote. they haven't voted yet. they're still debating. Edited December 18, 2019 by very honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Notice how every fucking botard that gets up to defend this shit stain sounds like Tim Blake Nelson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nebraska Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 47 minutes ago, very honest said: that wasn't the vote. be a lot cooler if it was 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azatoth Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 12/17/2019 at 9:15 AM, Nebraska said: The slave-owning galaxy brain framers never thought what happens when the checks and balances fails when one party is supporting a corrupt president and has control of the senate and has no intention of acting as a fair juror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 We know nothing is going to happen, right? I don't know what the dems are trying to accomplish. Maybe get his tax returns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Yeah despite all the rallies throughout the country in support of impeachment, I can pretty much guarantee it will be DOA the moment it reaches the Senate. I'm not saying impeachment was the wrong thing to do - Trump absolutely deserved it. But realistically it will fall through in the end. So I'm not about to run victory laps in excitement. Besides, 2020 is imminent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Perhaps. Gop will set precedent though. Let them take responsibility for their crap by moving it to senate. They can look back in 10 years and think about what they did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted December 18, 2019 Author Share Posted December 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, marf said: We know nothing is going to happen, right? have you seen/read something? i read this: "After six hours of floor debate and likely some procedural wrangling, both articles are expected to pass in the late afternoon or evening with the support of nearly every Democrat, and few (if any) Republicans. Final votes on each article are expected sometime between 6:30 pm and 7:30 pm Eastern, though that timeline could slip. These votes will be the culmination of the House’s impeachment process over the Ukraine scandal — in which Trump tried to pressure the Ukrainian government into investigating his 2020 rival Joe Biden, by withholding a White House meeting and military aid. They will not, however, remove the president from office. Rather, a trial in the Senate is coming next, in January — and that chamber is overwhelmingly likely to acquit Trump, leaving him in power." i'm curious if you read/saw something different. or just skepticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
may be rude Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 regarding the senate, there are more shoes that may drop. this is serious nat sec shit and a lot of very serious people are very seriously working. even if no new evidence is revealed, the needle is more likely to move toward supporting impeachment. but there is reason to expect one or more pieces of significant evidence to become public, further harming any rationale for GOP support of Trump. the GOP are already tugging their collars. a lot is in play. today, in fact, prosecutors revealed RUSSIAN OLIGARCH FIRTASH was the one who gave indicted Giuliani associate Lev Parnas a million dollars, which Parnas failed to inform the FBI about. Note that Parnas gave Giuliani a half million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I'll only be slightly surprised if the fucker is reelected by a clear margin, TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, very honest said: regarding the senate, there are more shoes that may drop. this is serious nat sec shit and a lot of very serious people are very seriously working. even if no new evidence is revealed, the needle is more likely to move toward supporting impeachment. but there is reason to expect one or more pieces of significant evidence to become public, further harming any rationale for GOP support of Trump. the GOP are already tugging their collars. a lot is in play. today, in fact, prosecutors revealed RUSSIAN OLIGARCH FIRTASH was the one who gave indicted Giuliani associate Lev Parnas a million dollars, which Parnas failed to inform the FBI about. Note that Parnas gave Giuliani a half million. Mcconnell says he wants to dismiss the entire trial as quickly as possible with no evidence presented and no witnesses called. Just a straight floor vote, and then they can go back to oppressing Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
may be rude Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Rubin Farr said: Mcconnell says he wants to dismiss the entire trial as quickly as possible with no evidence presented and no witnesses called. Just a straight floor vote, and then they can go back to oppressing Americans. By doing that he puts the Senate on the chopping block in November. It would be cleansed by voters. They are sweating. Pelosi played this well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 The Reps haven't helped their case at all today IMO. They just come off as white privileged southern trash, the kind American society is quickly turning against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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