dr lopez Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 there should be a term for this old dinosaurs of the industry like WV or Tom whose ears are probably just shot to complete shit in their advancing age and as a result their new music has totally wack mixing choices. Beethoven effect? Although I would say that Beethoven got better as he went deaf... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X4creek Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 hours ago, dr lopez said: Tom Jenkinson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 yes. the mixing on ufabulum and beyond is so flat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Lare Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 On 12/10/2021 at 10:08 PM, dr lopez said: there should be a term for this old dinosaurs of the industry like WV or Tom whose ears are probably just shot to complete shit in their advancing age and as a result their new music has totally wack mixing choices. Beethoven effect? Although I would say that Beethoven got better as he went deaf... The term is ageism Just fooking with ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khov Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I cant hear the tinitus on both GAS records ah ah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
species8472 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 word is that the noise was actually removed from the release on steaming services. bizarre. will verify later if nobody else feels like checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
species8472 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 well shit - it has been removed. all that physical media with a bogus version. damn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 3 hours ago, species8472 said: word is that the noise was actually removed from the release on steaming services. bizarre. will verify later if nobody else feels like checking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Quite relieved actually. I bought the physical but so far I've only listened to it on streaming. I couldnt hear any noise and just assumed I was an old codger with banjaxed ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
species8472 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 its a bold move - basically admits either that it was not supposed to be there in the first place, or it was a shit creative idea. either way - i'm pleased that i can delve into this album now. rausch next please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaramouche Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, species8472 said: its a bold move - basically admits either that it was not supposed to be there in the first place, or it was a shit creative idea. either way - i'm pleased that i can delve into this album now. rausch next please. Did you see any comms on this? The high freq was certainly there last week on Spotify, put me off buying. I wonder if the Bandcamp downloads have also been updated, no previews, which is annoying. Does anyone have a physical copy they have listened to? Not many previews I can see, still present on the YT they released on the 3rd. As well as the soundcloud clips More importantly, getting some serious luxury salon vibes from the Bandcamp photo. I'd get my haircut at Salon Voigt, special hair treatment with herbs of the black forest conditioner. Edited December 14, 2021 by Shimon_Shimon 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logakght Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Not bad, tho the kick is too clean. I liked from previous GAS how hidden it sounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
species8472 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Shimon_Shimon said: Did you see any comms on this? The high freq was certainly there last week on Spotify, put me off buying. I wonder if the Bandcamp downloads have also been updated, no previews, which is annoying. Does anyone have a physical copy they have listened to? can confirm bandcamp downloads have been updated. physical cd copies have the sound, and i assume every record does as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDobalina Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) oof / lol / wtf Looks like someone finally stumbled upon this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastering_(audio) Time to admit this whole gas resurrection, while not without its moments, is basically a cash in on faded glory. I'd say stick to the original canon of releases, but he's already redefined these a couple of times to sell yet more pricey box sets. Edited December 14, 2021 by BobDobalina 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logakght Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 56 minutes ago, BobDobalina said: oof / lol / wtf Looks like someone finally stumbled upon this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastering_(audio) Time to admit this whole gas resurrection, while not without its moments, is basically a cash in on faded glory. I'd say stick to the original canon of releases, but he's already redefined these a couple of times to sell yet more pricey box sets. I agree with this dude. Narkopop felt more like the right ending for this. Original Gas (Nah und fern ones) will always be a miracle in music, but these new releases are simply dull and absent of that magic. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewSchoolScience Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) What high frequency sound are you guys referring to? I downloaded the flacs from bandcamp again and I can see the files are different (different size and bitrate), but I don't hear any difference. Maybe my ears are banjo-ed. Edited December 15, 2021 by NewSchoolScience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manmower Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Look at the spectrograms around 10 kHz in the old version, to my ears if I pay attention to it it's basically like a faint hearing test beep pulsing throughout most of the tracks—think some people hear something way more annoying depending on their ears and transducers. This is Rausch, but same thing: It's weird how they quietly removed it from this new one... it was definitely noticed and discussed when Rausch was released as well. Besides the deaf Wolfgang hypothesis people speculated it was meant to mimic auditory hallucinations or tinnitus or whatever. If it was removed from Der Lange Marsch I don't suppose it was intentional in Rausch, wonder if he'll go back and edit this, too? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDobalina Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 4 hours ago, NewSchoolScience said: What high frequency sound are you guys referring to? I downloaded the flacs from bandcamp again and I can see the files are different (different size and bitrate), but I don't hear any difference. Maybe my ears are banjo-ed. It's an artifact coincident with kick drum pulse, which gathering by other recent posts is at or above 10Khz. Can't speak for the tinnitus crowd (as if they could hear me anyway), but generally seapunking it's p normal for sensitivity to higher frequencies to fall off quite significantly as we get older. I'm in my earlymid-forties and yet it still rustles my jimmies to Koln and back, in your case I'd take it as a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 i replaced these flacs with thomas fehlmann's record this year and was much happier! great GAS album! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scumtron Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 10 hours ago, NewSchoolScience said: What high frequency sound are you guys referring to? I downloaded the flacs from bandcamp again and I can see the files are different (different size and bitrate), but I don't hear any difference. Maybe my ears are banjo-ed. Same. I'm quite puzzled by this thread. I can hear som light "crackling" sounds in some of the tracks (not on Rausch), but these high frequency kicks should be on top of the beats somehow? I don't think I have any hearing damage, so perhaps I'm just getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manmower Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 In addition I think human hearing tends to have a notch at or just above 10 kHz anyway, and depending on your head anatomy the notch could be more or less pronounced or it could be right where these tones are vs. just above or below them. I have no real understanding of how head related transfer functions work but I think with speakers you should be able to move the notch by facing left or right instead of facing the speaker (essentially manipulating the 'azimuth' of the source). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 On 12/3/2021 at 7:51 AM, wahnfried said: Track 10 also features processed vocals, a first for GAS, if I'm not mistaken. I believe you're mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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