spunktronics Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 So looks like shit is kicking off again in Iraq... How long before UN gets involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I suspect the UN are already involved. Probably not connected or possibly connected to the Ukraine situation, but the amount of US military vehicles I've seen at the local RAF base lately is way higher than usual B52 bomber Apache helicopters F16 fighter jets Lol good edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Someone at work has seen a stealth bomber here this week as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublename Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Where are those Ottomans when you need them? Keep this bloody heathen rabble in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uniret Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 isis oh isis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 This feels like a build-up to the Caustic Window listening party in Baghdad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 *puts Oceanic on* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olo Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 shoulda left well enough alone & kept Saddam in charge. Dictators wouldn't put up with this taliban bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Even back in March 2003 I didn't approve of the invasion of Iraq. We all know the WMD bullshit was a false pretense as an oil grab for our monkey president and ex-Halliburton CEO veep and their cronies.And now this blowback with the ISIL takeover...should never have bothered in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublename Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Looks like Panopticon has failed us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDobalina Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Yeah I biked into this thread hoping for some hot ancient Egyptian goddess pics thanks watmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 omg sterling archer is going too far this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I'll have to admit that that's eye candy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I say if we want to intervene in situations like this our interventions should be minimized to only include providing utilities and infrastructure. electricity, irrigation, internet, etc. There is no good done if you want to destabilize governments without empowering the citizenry.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 The millitia groups are american backed through the saudis anyway, they didn't just come from nowhere, it's either that it's just a nice staging point to continue the proxy war against syria or kurdistan was hoping to ride in like the cavalry and take over the mosul region with it's oil reserves thereby capturing the rest of northern iraq, which of course the US would like because you'd have a weakened iran allied iraqi regime, unfortunately for this plan iran decided to quickly jump in and militarily back iraq's sovereignty. It makes you wonder at the loyalties of those placed in command of the iraqi forces that they would melt away from a fight that they could have clearly won, perhaps the commanders that are US assets were told to back off the not realising the plan to divvy up the territory or not really caring, thinking more about their kids university scholarships to US colleges and their retirements in florida. Anyway, stuff is happening that has been planned and we don't have the full picture yet. In the long term kurdistan doesn't realise that it's going to be chopped up for the retred ottoman empire and the new kingdom of david. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Someone at work has seen a stealth bomber here this week as well Not very stealthy after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I think it's pretty cute Iran is thinking about cooperating with the US on dealing with ISIS. (both are more alike than they're willing to admit...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jonah Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 fucking rambo iii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usagi Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Looks like Panopticon has failed us. never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skibby Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 how did "isis" become such a force that requires entire armies to conquer? who the F funded it? btw, as a mozartean who loves die zauberflöte, im annoyed they're using that name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I suspect the UN are already involved. Probably not connected or possibly connected to the Ukraine situation, but the amount of US military vehicles I've seen at the local RAF base lately is way higher than usual B52 bomber Apache helicopters F16 fighter jets Lol good edit RAF Fairford? how did "isis" become such a force that requires entire armies to conquer? who the F funded it? it's a coalition of various Sunni extremist/jihadi groups that have been fighting in Syria and Iraq, and with their effectiveness in Syria they're become particularly well-organized and dangerous. The Iraq army had setbacks with desertions early on in the recent offensive, hence the quickly lost territory. In the meantime, better trained Iraqi forces have launched a counter-offensive and won some territory back, and Baghdad is still in control of the goverment. The crazy thing is that there's a surreal, tentative unity between Kurdish Iraq, Turkey, Iraq's central government, and Iran in defeating ISIS (all historical rivals and oft enemies) because at the moment they all have a lot to lose if ISIS expands. I must say, as much as I want to avoid any intervention, including airstrikes (as we did in Libya) ISIS is fucking brutal, their leaving an absolute bloodbath (which they are documenting themselves) of dead civilians in their wake: mass executions, horrific methods of beheading, blatant drive-by shootings at fleeing locals. That said this isn't anything new, just something of a "blitzkrieg"-esque conflict in the broader Jihadist war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 What a bunch of assholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audioblysk Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I'm too suburban and American to understand this... But glad to see nothing is changing and our species is slowly, but steadily continuing down the yellow brick road to imminent demise. I bleat and take solace in knowing someone will have all the monies, last say on oil and who's deity was the right one. That obviously needs to get cleared up before progress can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 An interesting post on the subject by one of my colleagues: http://www.asiapacificmemo.ca/counter-insurgency-in-afghanistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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