sheatheman Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 The whole mental illness thing is kind of limpdick. It doesn't answer anything. It's like: "Oh, you're just chemically imbalanced! Take this pill! You're just a chemically imbalanced monkey versus these monkeys over here who are in fact chemically balanced. We don't know why these ones are and these ones aren't! Maybe the reason we don't know is due to another type of chemical imbalance! There must be some monkeys somewhere who do know, who don't have that imbalance. Maybe the depressed monkeys are the ones who ARE balanced! Maybe we are the ones who need a pill!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 The whole mental illness thing is kind of limpdick. It doesn't answer anything. It's like: "Oh, you're just chemically imbalanced! Take this pill! You're just a chemically imbalanced monkey versus these monkeys over here who are in fact chemically balanced. We don't know why these ones are and these ones aren't! Maybe the reason we don't know is due to another type of chemical imbalance! There must be some monkeys somewhere who do know, who don't have that imbalance. Maybe the depressed monkeys are the ones who ARE balanced! Maybe we are the ones who need a pill!" Are you saying that mood disorders don't exist or something? Psychiatry is a sham? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 The whole mental illness thing is kind of limpdick. It doesn't answer anything. It's like: "Oh, you're just chemically imbalanced! Take this pill! You're just a chemically imbalanced monkey versus these monkeys over here who are in fact chemically balanced. We don't know why these ones are and these ones aren't! Maybe the reason we don't know is due to another type of chemical imbalance! There must be some monkeys somewhere who do know, who don't have that imbalance. Maybe the depressed monkeys are the ones who ARE balanced! Maybe we are the ones who need a pill!" Are you saying that mood disorders don't exist or something? Psychiatry is a sham? sheathentology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berk Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I think the most important reason was the Hollywood scene. They all live in a fairy tail out there. I think lots of them forget to think rationally thinking that their entertainment jobs are important, but it's "just" entertainment. Art is a beautiful thing, to convey feelings etc. but in the end, it's objectively not important at all. No disrespect or anything, but I think maybe he just lost touch with reality. It's a shame, he looked like a sympathetic guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoodie Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 The whole mental illness thing is kind of limpdick. It doesn't answer anything. It's like: "Oh, you're just chemically imbalanced! Take this pill! You're just a chemically imbalanced monkey versus these monkeys over here who are in fact chemically balanced. We don't know why these ones are and these ones aren't! Maybe the reason we don't know is due to another type of chemical imbalance! There must be some monkeys somewhere who do know, who don't have that imbalance. Maybe the depressed monkeys are the ones who ARE balanced! Maybe we are the ones who need a pill!" you don't go to a psychologist/therapist/psychiatrist because you're chemically imbalanced. you go there because you're having a hard time functioning and doing simple day to day activities like going outside, talking to others, maintaining hygiene, etc. yes, the root cause of these things is in a brain, and usually in a brain with an abnormal balance of neurotransmitters, but that's not the only aspect of mental illness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Suicide is an act of desperation, not of selfishness. Some of you might learn something from this lecture by Robert Sapolsky: http://youtu.be/NOAgplgTxfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 ~20% of people with bipolar die of suicide. ~15% of people with clinical depression die of suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 this celebrity death has affected me more than any other. something about it is wrong and its put the fright in me and i dont really know why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Sometimes I wonder if a depressed worldview isn't just as logical. Not saying it is. Just saying. its not a world view. its terrifying. like being ina thousand car wrecks. like falling down a well its not "how you look at things" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usagi Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 going to chime in with this being one of the most affecting celeb deaths ever. the world feels like a darker place without the man. I'm always trying to find a reason to be happy in spite of the world and knowing that someone like him has decided to call it quits just makes everything seem all the more futile and meaningless. and fuck the celeb aspect by the way, he was a man. a man who brought happiness and laughs to many people, and who ultimately lost his battle (or simply decided to quit the game, depending on how you see it - his right to choose) with his demons. I have nothing but sympathy for him and I miss him. The whole mental illness thing is kind of limpdick. It doesn't answer anything. It's like: "Oh, you're just chemically imbalanced! Take this pill! You're just a chemically imbalanced monkey versus these monkeys over here who are in fact chemically balanced. We don't know why these ones are and these ones aren't! Maybe the reason we don't know is due to another type of chemical imbalance! There must be some monkeys somewhere who do know, who don't have that imbalance. Maybe the depressed monkeys are the ones who ARE balanced! Maybe we are the ones who need a pill!" Are you saying that mood disorders don't exist or something? Psychiatry is a sham? sheathentology https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PElNdMNwtus shanti shanti shanti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skibby Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 i wonder if the family shut off the twitter account or if twitter took that upon themselves to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
may be rude Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 what a crazy thing, robin williams of all people. what was he thinking? dude must have been looped out. what kind of problem could possibly have faced him that had no better way of being handled? he probably fried his fucking brain, the only feelings he could feel were negative ones and they warped all the ideas he could think. i bet he fucked up his receptors or inhibitors or whatever on some stupid fucking coke binge, snorting shit that 10 different drug dealers cut with their own special recipes on dirty coffee tables, mixing it with downers so he didn't get a heart attack and to quell the paranoia, going on for days on end in a hotel room, watching tv, surfing the internet. maybe he didn't even have a good time, he just felt compelled because he was in the habit. and people have the audacity to act like fear and loathing style drug use is fine. hunter thompson was snorting coke every thirty minutes toward the end of his life. be careful with your brains, people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Podcast from Marc Maron with Robin Williams from 2010: http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episodes/remembering_robin_williams They get into some darker territory for a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 So, looks like he had Parkinson's Disease and hadn't gone public with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adieu Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 what a crazy thing, robin williams of all people. what was he thinking? dude must have been looped out. what kind of problem could possibly have faced him that had no better way of being handled? he probably fried his fucking brain, the only feelings he could feel were negative ones and they warped all the ideas he could think. i bet he fucked up his receptors or inhibitors or whatever on some stupid fucking coke binge, snorting shit that 10 different drug dealers cut with their own special recipes on dirty coffee tables, mixing it with downers so he didn't get a heart attack and to quell the paranoia, going on for days on end in a hotel room, watching tv, surfing the internet. maybe he didn't even have a good time, he just felt compelled because he was in the habit. and people have the audacity to act like fear and loathing style drug use is fine. hunter thompson was snorting coke every thirty minutes toward the end of his life. be careful with your brains, people. .................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 what a crazy thing, robin williams of all people. what was he thinking? dude must have been looped out. what kind of problem could possibly have faced him that had no better way of being handled? he probably fried his fucking brain, the only feelings he could feel were negative ones and they warped all the ideas he could think. i bet he fucked up his receptors or inhibitors or whatever on some stupid fucking coke binge, snorting shit that 10 different drug dealers cut with their own special recipes on dirty coffee tables, mixing it with downers so he didn't get a heart attack and to quell the paranoia, going on for days on end in a hotel room, watching tv, surfing the internet. maybe he didn't even have a good time, he just felt compelled because he was in the habit. and people have the audacity to act like fear and loathing style drug use is fine. hunter thompson was snorting coke every thirty minutes toward the end of his life. be careful with your brains, people. His widow has said he was sober at the time of his death, and was apparently in the beginning stages of Parkinson's disease - couple that with bipolar disorder, and he probably had enough of this life, despite all that he would leave behind. That, or he didn't want to degenerate and make his family suffer at his expense, and better to remember him when he was still at his best physically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 what a crazy thing, robin williams of all people. what was he thinking? dude must have been looped out. what kind of problem could possibly have faced him that had no better way of being handled? he probably fried his fucking brain, the only feelings he could feel were negative ones and they warped all the ideas he could think. i bet he fucked up his receptors or inhibitors or whatever on some stupid fucking coke binge, snorting shit that 10 different drug dealers cut with their own special recipes on dirty coffee tables, mixing it with downers so he didn't get a heart attack and to quell the paranoia, going on for days on end in a hotel room, watching tv, surfing the internet. maybe he didn't even have a good time, he just felt compelled because he was in the habit. and people have the audacity to act like fear and loathing style drug use is fine. hunter thompson was snorting coke every thirty minutes toward the end of his life. be careful with your brains, people. better to remember him when he was still at his best physically. This is a nice thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I'm sure we can still find a way to assign blame to Robin Williams, though Maybe God gave him Parkinson's for his past transgressions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logakght Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 The more I hear about this the more I¡m confused about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 what a crazy thing, robin williams of all people. what was he thinking? dude must have been looped out. what kind of problem could possibly have faced him that had no better way of being handled? he probably fried his fucking brain, the only feelings he could feel were negative ones and they warped all the ideas he could think. i bet he fucked up his receptors or inhibitors or whatever on some stupid fucking coke binge, snorting shit that 10 different drug dealers cut with their own special recipes on dirty coffee tables, mixing it with downers so he didn't get a heart attack and to quell the paranoia, going on for days on end in a hotel room, watching tv, surfing the internet. maybe he didn't even have a good time, he just felt compelled because he was in the habit. and people have the audacity to act like fear and loathing style drug use is fine. hunter thompson was snorting coke every thirty minutes toward the end of his life. be careful with your brains, people. better to remember him when he was still at his best physically. This is a nice thought. What is this? Logan's Run? People are only worthwhile in peak health? I guess Steven Hawkins should have offed himself long ago, forget his contributions that happened since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 David Foster Wallace - The Depressed Person http://harpers.org/wp-content/uploads/HarpersMagazine-1998-01-0059425.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 what a crazy thing, robin williams of all people. what was he thinking? dude must have been looped out. what kind of problem could possibly have faced him that had no better way of being handled? he probably fried his fucking brain, the only feelings he could feel were negative ones and they warped all the ideas he could think. i bet he fucked up his receptors or inhibitors or whatever on some stupid fucking coke binge, snorting shit that 10 different drug dealers cut with their own special recipes on dirty coffee tables, mixing it with downers so he didn't get a heart attack and to quell the paranoia, going on for days on end in a hotel room, watching tv, surfing the internet. maybe he didn't even have a good time, he just felt compelled because he was in the habit. and people have the audacity to act like fear and loathing style drug use is fine. hunter thompson was snorting coke every thirty minutes toward the end of his life. be careful with your brains, people. better to remember him when he was still at his best physically. This is a nice thought. What is this? Logan's Run? People are only worthwhile in peak health? I guess Steven Hawkins should have offed himself long ago, forget his contributions that happened since then. social darwinism is the new black bruh, didn't you get the memo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Yeah. Good read, but damn those sentences... I .... need...some... air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 what a crazy thing, robin williams of all people. what was he thinking? dude must have been looped out. what kind of problem could possibly have faced him that had no better way of being handled? he probably fried his fucking brain, the only feelings he could feel were negative ones and they warped all the ideas he could think. i bet he fucked up his receptors or inhibitors or whatever on some stupid fucking coke binge, snorting shit that 10 different drug dealers cut with their own special recipes on dirty coffee tables, mixing it with downers so he didn't get a heart attack and to quell the paranoia, going on for days on end in a hotel room, watching tv, surfing the internet. maybe he didn't even have a good time, he just felt compelled because he was in the habit. and people have the audacity to act like fear and loathing style drug use is fine. hunter thompson was snorting coke every thirty minutes toward the end of his life. be careful with your brains, people. better to remember him when he was still at his best physically. This is a nice thought. What is this? Logan's Run? People are only worthwhile in peak health? I guess Steven Hawkins should have offed himself long ago, forget his contributions that happened since then. You missed my point - in his mind, rather than burden his family with ill health, finances associated with caring for him, seeing him deteriorate, etc. he decided the pain of his suicide would be "quicker" than a long, drawn out illness. Ripping the bandage off quickly, to use a metaphor. Hawkins came down with his illness fairly early in his life, and his personality (he wasn't burdened with the mental issues Williams had) and mindset deemed that he would not allow the illness to overtake him or prevent him from accomplishing his important work. His wife announced that he had early signs of Parkinson's, now things start to make a little more sense. I guess he didn't want to get to the stage where he'd be dependent on his family or not be able to communicate properly, that on top of the underlying severe depression would make a lot of people consider the route he took. Rest in peace. Bingo. Sad, but in a way I can understand his thinking (if that was indeed why he did what he did). Considering the financial pressures he was under as well, he might have thought that this would also solve those issues (life insurance) and he wouldn't leave behind as many problems for his family to deal with. What's really unsettling is we have 4 more movies Williams is in coming out - seeing him now onscreen after all this will be odd, for sure. That being said, my son has never seen Good Morning Vietnam - time to revisit that classic, methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I think it is faulty to look for a reason. Parkinson's might have had something to do with it, but it's definitely not accurate to say, "OH! So that's why! I can understand that!" Wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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