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AI and the Everything in the Whole Wide World Benchmark

There is a tendency across different subfields in AI to see value in a small collection of influential benchmarks, which we term 'general' benchmarks. These benchmarks operate as stand-ins or abstractions for a range of anointed common problems that are frequently framed as foundational milestones on the path towards flexible and generalizable AI systems. State-of-the-art performance on these benchmarks is widely understood as indicative of progress towards these long-term goals. In this position paper, we explore how such benchmarks are designed, constructed and used in order to reveal key limitations of their framing as the functionally 'general' broad measures of progress they are set up to be.

https://datasets-benchmarks-proceedings.neurips.cc/paper/2021/hash/084b6fbb10729ed4da8c3d3f5a3ae7c9-Abstract-round2.html

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Haven't seen gpt4 mentioned here yet, more powerful than gpt3.5, can write code pretty well in simple cases, less prone to lying. Can pass the bar exam, and a lot of other exams like AP biology.

 

At what point does this stuff start disrupting the workforce? I'd say pretty soon for some jobs.

oh and it takes image inputs and can explain jokes / memes now.

 

 

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39 minutes ago, vkxwz said:

Haven't seen gpt4 mentioned here yet, more powerful than gpt3.5, can write code pretty well in simple cases, less prone to lying. Can pass the bar exam, and a lot of other exams like AP biology.

 

At what point does this stuff start disrupting the workforce? I'd say pretty soon for some jobs.

oh and it takes image inputs and can explain jokes / memes now.

 

 

i just watched this video and his answer to the question at the timestamp (~13:45) he's saying this AI can't reason and/or logic out basic shit, which is just patently false. at least, they're outputting the correct answers which in some cases requires multilevel understanding of imagery, context regarding time, and functionality of physical devices, ALONG with understanding how to subvert those things for a joke (directly speaking about the meme explanation you posted). it's fucking wild that the AI is able to explain something like that meme so well (assuming it's legit and not just some asshole trolling on Twitter). it's even wilder that guys like the one in this video are in real time being disproven...they're the ones who should be seeing exactly what's going on here.

the jobs that the current/upcoming AI could replace are really a small drop in a huge ocean kind of question at the moment. the current stuff will be good supplemental tools for humans in some jobs, but not replacing many outright. the guy in the video was entirely correct in how revolutionary AI is going to be for neuroscience and biology research, but in general all the sciences, maths? all that shit is about to get flipped on its head as the researchers learn how to really utilize the tools in powerful ways. 

 

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2 hours ago, vkxwz said:

At what point does this stuff start disrupting the workforce? I'd say pretty soon for some jobs.

I'm applying for an inventory/requisitions management job rn, don't really want the position but it'd pay okay. got half a mind to just send them a link to these ai models and save the company the trouble of training someone into a miserable life of spreadsheets and flow charts. 

hope the trade union I'm waiting on calls me back soon! 

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I know there is no way to stop the flow of technological progress. humans have an innate drive to keep advancing toward something. but what? we don't know exactly. something about making life easier, a better life for the next generation...I suppose. why not stop all this AI advancement and just be happy with what we have achieved technologically so far? why do we have to keep going toward something newer and shinier? IMO humans need to focus more on reality, truthfulness, what is right in front of us, instead of a life online. the natural world... AI advancements are going to make it nearly impossible at some point to discern what is reality, and what is a computer-generated version of reality. I'm already really creeped out by some of this AI porn crap I see. this is going to set off even more of a myriad of psychological catastrophes. the last 25 years of internet/social media have shown millions of humans are unable to mentally handle a digital version of themselves. AI is going to fuel more of an addiction to the online fantasy world, less on the real.

but whatever man...this shit is all out of our control. next 40 years should be fun lol

 

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2 hours ago, zero said:

but whatever man...this shit is all out of our control. next 40 years should be fun lol

 

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9 hours ago, Summon Dot E X E said:

We can't even begin to fathom how disruptive this could, and probably will, be.

Entire high paying industries will be automated, it will disrupt the workforce like never before. Be kind to your toaster, or you might not wake up someday. I think inevitably there will be a violent backlash against Ai.

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I once had a vision, several years ago. That the human population will not be divided by politics anymore, but rather to naturalists vs. technologists. The naturalists will gravitate towards more humble ways of life, more in tune with nature and its cycles, self-sufficient etc, will populate the countryside. While the other will readily embrace all the technological advancement thrown at them, including AI, nanotech, body augmentation, virtual reality, children by genetic design, 3d printed food and soylents, etc. And will live in cities. The 'clash' might come from allocation of living space and contamination of the living space. Also, contamination of the genes. Technologists will see themselves as superior (aided by tech and AI they certainly will be in some ways) and will try to bully / outperform the naturalists.

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5 hours ago, cichlisuite said:

I once had a vision, several years ago. That the human population will not be divided by politics anymore, but rather to naturalists vs. technologists. The naturalists will gravitate towards more humble ways of life, more in tune with nature and its cycles, self-sufficient etc, will populate the countryside. While the other will readily embrace all the technological advancement thrown at them, including AI, nanotech, body augmentation, virtual reality, children by genetic design, 3d printed food and soylents, etc. And will live in cities. The 'clash' might come from allocation of living space and contamination of the living space. Also, contamination of the genes. Technologists will see themselves as superior (aided by tech and AI they certainly will be in some ways) and will try to bully / outperform the naturalists.

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Gpt4 is very good at teaching things and is also quite good at coding (as good as the average human on leetcode, a website where users submit small programming challenges for others to solve). So I've been using it for writing a video game I've been working on for a couple of years, and honestly I haven't been this motivated in a long time to write code, it writes decent code quickly to your specification, can debug issues with it, and will suggest libraries and how to install them and integrate them in the project. The other night I spent a couple of hours working on a piece of code without ever running it, just responding to it's output with "ok good, now I want it to be able to do this, and also can you change this other thing behind I want xyz". And when I'm writing code and want to know more about the library functionality I'm using I can just ask it and get good explanations. I also told it to write a python script to count the lines of code in all files of a certain type in a folder and it worked first time. It's like having a tutor / pair programmer that never tires and is always up for more exploration/teaching/code writing.

 

And this is a great article about what these large language models actually are, comparing it to a simulator (or a dreaming engine imo) rather than thinking about it as an "agent": https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/vJFdjigzmcXMhNTsx/simulators

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The GPT Plugins (e.g. connecting chatgpt to wolfram alpha) seems like a big deal 

I've never seen so much happen in 4 months in tech. ChatGPT last november, GPT-4 now, the ChatGPT API being 100 times cheaper to use than anyone expected, MS picking up the whole thing and plonking it into Bing and Office365. And then earlier in the year all the Stable Diffusion stuff.

There's also a load of stuff happening with the Llama model and Alpaca, essentially people exploring smaller open-source versions of chatgpt and asking 'what can I run locally' and it turns out you can do quite a lot.

Usually with tech we see occasional big leaps then incremental improvements, but I think the LLM stuff is such a wide new frontier that hasn't been explored that the velocity is very fast. Like opening up new territory and there's all kinds of directions people can explore. We're finding new stuff and then 8 weeks later figuring out how to run it 100 times more efficiently etc.  

And everyone is getting to play with this new frontier, rather than it being some mega project that no-one gets to use. The OpenAI API is cheap, you can talk to ChatGPT for free, Bing is free, Stable Diffusion is open-source, Llama/Aplaca is free, etc.

Lots of people losing their shit on twitter

 

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elon, woz, and a bunch of other dudes are asking nicely here - please sign this petition to stop AI from wiping out humanity:

https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments/

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we call on all AI labs to immediately pause for at least 6 months the training of AI systems more powerful than GPT-4. This pause should be public and verifiable, and include all key actors. If such a pause cannot be enacted quickly, governments should step in and institute a moratorium.

hmmm...which will win....capitalistic AI labs...or the greater good for the rest of us. stay tuned!

I wonder what all the great governments on this planet will think about this "institute a moratorium". ha!

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11 minutes ago, zero said:

elon, woz, and a bunch of other dudes are asking nicely here - please sign this petition to stop AI from wiping out humanity:

https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments/

hmmm...which will win....capitalistic AI labs...or the greater good for the rest of us. stay tuned!

I wonder what all the great governments on this planet will think about this "institute a moratorium". ha!

I'm sure if the great governments decide to ban it, they will continue to use it in secret, with models far more powerful than anything previously disclosed, to rule their populations with an iron fist.

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