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The scariest thing about all of this is how many people have swallowed it all. It'll probably get someone killed.

Emotions run high and rationality goes out the window when kids are involved. Some bozo will end up tracking one of these people down and torturing them for a 'confession'.

Not the high profile names. I mean the owner of the pizza place or that girl they dubbed the 'child handler'

called it, almost:

 

Gunman fires in restaurant at centre of conspiracy

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38205885

 

 

false flag according to the peepz

 

edit: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1461897

 

 

 

haven't read this but to play devil's advocate.

 

they didn't release picture or name of the man. When someone goes on a shooting rampage their face and name gets plastered everywhere.

 

there was zero video or images taken of the crime.

 

How? Why?

 

why would a man go in with a gun and fire it, hurt no one, and surrender?

 

obviously i don't have all the details but it's weird that the only reporting of this is via text.

 

If I was in power and trying to play psy-ops this is one of the avenues I would use to discredit the opposition. This is a common practice. Use violence as a means of discrediting those that oppose you. It happens during protests often.

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well, I don't like her. even as an artist supposedly exploring the realms of higher consciousness (performance art in her case, which I will always view with some measure of suspicion), she still can't escape the Serbian in her, hence her idiotic remarks about Australian Aboriginal people.

 

why are we talking about her in a joke comspiracy thread?

kinda stupid to make a racist remark in response to someone else's racist remark.

I don't think she was being racist with those remarks, which is why I didn't explicitly characterise them as such. she was just being dumb and reactionary in the way that deeply ethnically insular people are when it comes to simply viewing other people, even without racist intentions which I don't think she actually had. on that point however, Serbs have not thus far been able to collectively demonstrate a commitment to egalitarian values and mutual respect for other races, and that is certainly colouring my comments. if you're going to ignore the context of (very recent) Serbian history and pretend that all people view other people the same way, then feel free, but don't expect me to.

 

finally, the real point I was making aside from all this racism bullshit is that this is a classic failing of the notion that "artists" are the best and brightest of us, like they're elite-calibre humans that plebs could never aspire to. people are people, they all have the same failings.

So... you're a racist. Glad we settled that.

Culture does not equal Race

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well, I don't like her. even as an artist supposedly exploring the realms of higher consciousness (performance art in her case, which I will always view with some measure of suspicion), she still can't escape the Serbian in her, hence her idiotic remarks about Australian Aboriginal people.

 

why are we talking about her in a joke comspiracy thread?

kinda stupid to make a racist remark in response to someone else's racist remark.
I don't think she was being racist with those remarks, which is why I didn't explicitly characterise them as such. she was just being dumb and reactionary in the way that deeply ethnically insular people are when it comes to simply viewing other people, even without racist intentions which I don't think she actually had. on that point however, Serbs have not thus far been able to collectively demonstrate a commitment to egalitarian values and mutual respect for other races, and that is certainly colouring my comments. if you're going to ignore the context of (very recent) Serbian history and pretend that all people view other people the same way, then feel free, but don't expect me to.

 

finally, the real point I was making aside from all this racism bullshit is that this is a classic failing of the notion that "artists" are the best and brightest of us, like they're elite-calibre humans that plebs could never aspire to. people are people, they all have the same failings.

So... you're a racist. Glad we settled that.
Culture does not equal Race

Race is more a cultural construct than a scientific classification. There are historically localized clusters of genetic material, some of which affect appearance, which we tend to call "race," but it's difficult to meaningfully define the "races" on a genetic level. If you don't want to say it's possible to be "racist" against Eastern Europeans, fine. Let's just say that it was a bigoted remark about Serbians, and it was hypocritical.

If I were to say that Norwegians are more/less polite than Canadians...is that racist? (What if the Norwegian population was 51% non-white? 10%? 100%?) How do you determine when cultural criticism crosses into racism? Do you just read people's minds or what?

 

This shouldn't require too much conceptual analysis. Do you really think that Usagi was saying that Syrbs are genetically inferior to him?

 

P.S. Shame on any journalist who suggests that PizzaGate is 100% "fake news"...what a sad state of affairs, when

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Trump's pal, supervillain Peter Thiel says, "“I'm looking into parabiosis stuff, which I think is really interesting. This is where they did the young blood into older mice and they found that had a massive rejuvenating effect,” he said. “And so that’s . . . that is one that . . . again, it’s one of these very odd things where people had done these studies in the 1950s and then it got dropped altogether. I think there are a lot of these things that have been strangely under-explored.”"

 

 Gawker has reported that it received a tip in June claiming that Thiel “spends $40,000 per quarter to get an infusion of blood from an 18-year-old based on research conducted at Stanford on extending the lives of mice.” When Thiel was interviewed by Bercovici last year, he told the reporter that he hadn’t “quite, quite, quite started yet.” A spokesman for Thiel Capital told Inc. that nothing had changed since then.

 

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lol ^

 

the fake news thing is like a moral panic built on total media hysteria at the moment. if i were an alex jones conspiracy nut i would see this as the big media companies trying to squash out the truth / competition. they've taken an idea which is a problem - the idea that some websites were knowingly generating false information - and taken it to this extreme where everything we don't agree with = fake news. so ridiculous. 

 

Alex Jones is secretly Aphex Twin:

 

http://www.factmag.com/2016/12/05/911-conspiracy-truther-alex-jones-techno-producer/

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lol ^

 

the fake news thing is like a moral panic built on total media hysteria at the moment. if i were an alex jones conspiracy nut i would see this as the big media companies trying to squash out the truth / competition. they've taken an idea which is a problem - the idea that some websites were knowingly generating false information - and taken it to this extreme where everything we don't agree with = fake news. so ridiculous. 

i totally disagree. the whole discussion is about what is in the category of stories supported by evidence and what belongs in the category of unsubstantiated / speculative. some news IS fake, which is to say, it is NOT supported by the same kind and amount of evidence as other news. 

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lol ^

 

the fake news thing is like a moral panic built on total media hysteria at the moment. if i were an alex jones conspiracy nut i would see this as the big media companies trying to squash out the truth / competition. they've taken an idea which is a problem - the idea that some websites were knowingly generating false information - and taken it to this extreme where everything we don't agree with = fake news. so ridiculous. 

 

Alex Jones is secretly Aphex Twin:

 

http://www.factmag.com/2016/12/05/911-conspiracy-truther-alex-jones-techno-producer/

 

 

Is that a 707 or a 909 to the left of his mixer?  It goes by too fast and is too covered with other stuff for me to tell.

 

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https://theinternationalreporter.org/2016/12/06/assassination-of-finnish-reporters-investigating-bizarre-pizzagate-plot-puzzles-russia/

Anybody who ever was investigating and came close to the truth has either been assassinated, has died under mysterious circumstances or has simply disappeared.

I want the deniers in the thread to bring forth substantial proof to back up their claims of denying (other than ridicule or sub par word jokes)

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Hasn't there been multiple scandals in the UK about kid-diddling upper-society n gubmnt folk?

 

The main substantiated pedophilia scandals in the UK relate to churches (mostly Catholic), Jimmy Savile (and a few other less serious unrelated incidents with other entertainers), and the Pakistani pedophlie ring in Rochdale. There have long been allegations about abuses carried out by high level establishment types, but nothing proven. There's currently also a thing breaking involving abuse in youth football, though most of the abusers in that seem to have actually been brought to justice there long ago, the current interest there is more to do with how it was handled by the clubs and so on. There is also a major enquiry which just got underway recently looking into various different cases (mostly state related in some way, e.g. in children's care homes, see https://www.iicsa.org.uk/).

 

Not sure what any of that has to do with pizzagate though.

 

The vast majority of child abuse occurs at home, next most common stuff happens with kids in vulnerable situations and abuse by those in positions of power there (e.g. church, entertainment, football, education, care). By far the least common is with organised rings of pedophiles (though it does happen occasionally), and the least common of all is with occult abuse (so uncommon it's almost certainly never happened at all).

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I want the deniers in the thread to bring forth substantial proof to back up their claims of denying (other than ridicule or sub par word jokes)

 

That's not how this works, when someone has outrageous claims the responsibility is on them to provide evidence, not on others to provide evidence to the contrary. The pizzagate hoax is completely lacking in any hard evidence of any kind, it's all just a web of retarded circumstantial nonsense (it's actually too generous to even regard it as 'circumstantial' evidence).

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The vast majority of child abuse occurs at home, next most common stuff happens with kids in vulnerable situations and abuse by those in positions of power there (e.g. church, entertainment, football, education, care)

interesting omission of government as a position of power. 

 

here is an interesting article from feb of last year that documents a large number of military/politicians convicted on cp: https://responsiblebusiness.co/daniel-rosen-s-arrest-1f7befb1762c#.cf8x6rt7a

 

"Other Recent Arrests of Government Employees

Because the Department of Justice is not collecting data on child porn arrests, no one knows how many government employees have been arrested on child porn related charges, much less how many are engaged in the child porn industry who have yet to be caught.

The arrests listed here are, therefore, an incomplete data-set, gathered from the most rudimentary search method: simple Google and Twitter searches. On my other Medium postings I have listed recent arrests of police and military. So many police chiefs, for example, are being arrested for trading in brutal child rape and torture, I had to create a separate section.

From the record of the following arrests alone, we can speculate, child porn within our government agencies has reached crisis level."

the idea that there is no organization behind what allows these people to possives thousands of videos and terabytes of this stuff seems a bit naive, no? just another coincidence i guess

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The vast majority of child abuse occurs at home, next most common stuff happens with kids in vulnerable situations and abuse by those in positions of power there (e.g. church, entertainment, football, education, care)

interesting omission of government as a position of power. 

 

 

uuuh.. I didn't omit it, in fact I put a link into the fucking enquiry about it. https://www.iicsa.org.uk/

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