YO303 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) Putin: Leader in artificial intelligence will rule world https://flipboard.com/@flipboard/-putin-leader-in-artificial-intelligence/f-afd8014cbe%2Fapnewsarchive.com The thought of a AI arms race is terrifying, and if people like putin think controlling AI will make you ruler of the world there is no way we survive the century UN needs to get involve in this, make AI research neutral, force all the nations to work together. Edited September 2, 2017 by Deer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caze Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) yeah people not taking this shit seriously yet, might be not worth worrying about, but we're not even close to knowing enough about it to rule out worry, and a worse case scenario is plausible until we do. listened to this the other day, physicist Max Tegmark talking with Sam Harris: https://soundcloud.com/samharrisorg/94-the-future-of-intelligence Edited September 2, 2017 by caze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 force all the nations to work together. That sounds like A.I. talk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh2 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 if Putin's right it looks like Canada will be our new overlords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Russia makes good vodka and caviar, and those come from fish and potatoes that come from nature. i wouldn't put much stock in their ability to do much else except intimidate Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bechuga Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Don't trust Putin when it comes to computin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Don't trust Putin when it comes to computin lol if you're scared of ultraintelligent AIs just program them so the self-generated code is commented... problem solved... get me on the phone with Musk i have this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Don't trust Putin when it comes to computin lol if you're scared of ultraintelligent AIs just program them so the self-generated code is commented... problem solved... get me on the phone with Musk i have this The comments would probably be near useless. Hidden layers often can't be understood by humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Anyone tried Replika ( https://replika.ai/ ) ? Had it on my phone for about 2 weeks, and despite it apparently learning from your conversations by the end of the two weeks it was barely superior to a version of Eliza I had on the Amiga back in the 90s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mcbpete Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Been subscribed to Computerphile for a few years now, that poor guy always looks like it's the end of days ... he's seen something for sure. Something bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 Been subscribed to Computerphile for a few years now, that poor guy always looks like it's the end of days ... he's seen something for sure. Something bad. Haha, he's one of my favs on Computerphile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 Don't trust Putin when it comes to computin lol if you're scared of ultraintelligent AIs just program them so the self-generated code is commented... problem solved... get me on the phone with Musk i have this The comments would probably be near useless. Hidden layers often can't be understood by humans. Unplug it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Don't trust Putin when it comes to computinlol if you're scared of ultraintelligent AIs just program them so the self-generated code is commented... problem solved... get me on the phone with Musk i have this The comments would probably be near useless. Hidden layers often can't be understood by humans. Unplug it? Stick that shit in a bag of rice. If it survives then unplug it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audioblysk Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Came in expecting Haley Joel Osment and am leaving with a deep sense of impending doom Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Let's hope a giant sunflare will save us all eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bechuga Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Wear a suit of magnets, over which you wear a wool sweater, onto which sweater you rub balloons furiously. Combine with dusty hands and no AI will ever attempt to bag your meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Lare Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Regarding Putin's quote that ignited a discussion in the media. My take is it's his usual hypnosis inducing rhetorics at work that has nothing to do with AI specifically. Not a subject of the thread so i'll put it under the boring tags The context is that in March and June anti-corruption protests happened across all Russia seemingly out of nowhere (there was a formal cause of uncovering multi-billion worth of corruption of the prime minister Medvedev, aka former placeholder president while Putin was preparing his next 12 years in power). Peaceful protests against power are de facto outlawed in Russia, as no court will take your side no matter how constitutional your rights are and the police are acting as agents of the corrupted State, inducing fear into disobedient citizens. So in order to happen massively it's not only had to have a big cause, but also consist of a yet inexperienced crowd, like schoolboys and students - all this crowd dwells on local Youtube in millions, free from the State censorship and mostly immune to its propaganda, where they naturally get to know that no future is waiting for them under Putin's rule. So now the Kremlin tries to reach this dangerous, if left untreated, school audience and organize a live event on the school's opening day, an open lesson with Putin. Pupils across the country are talking about their great aspirations in science & technology and Putin reacts to every single one with a variation of a generic "this is a very interesting field, full of prospect, keep up the work, it'll be valued". The truth is it will not as his 18 years in power showed unequivocally. And this AI reply is just Putin's usual empty demagoguery that's masking his indifference towards conscious people in his country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted September 7, 2017 Author Share Posted September 7, 2017 not sure about putin's motives but people close to AI research are making similar noises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Also when you google AI you're gonna find a bunch of sensationalist bullshit - if you actually want to get educated try "machine learning". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Also when you google AI you're gonna find a bunch of sensationalist bullshit - if you actually want to get educated try "machine learning". Unless Google's algorithms are already trying to make AI seem like sensationalist bullshit to throw us all off the trail that it's actually already become self-aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Also when you google AI you're gonna find a bunch of sensationalist bullshit - if you actually want to get educated try "machine learning". Unless Google's algorithms are already trying to make AI seem like sensationalist bullshit to throw us all off the trail that it's actually already become self-aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Came in expecting Haley Joel Osment and am leaving with a deep sense of impending doom Thanks guys I was gonna say...is this about that Spielberg film from 2001? That apparently Kubrick worked on originally but died before it could be completed? I think Spielberg has a habit of over-sentimentalizing every sci-fi piece he attempts, but the Amphibicopters were cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlemflolia Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 The people who hype up the dangers of AI often have shitty reasons The people who downplay the dangers of AI often have shitty reasons There is no "AI" there is only "applied machine learning" so to speak, and the real primary dangers of it include: -Society allowing itself to become dependent upon black box oracles they don't understand, for efficiency purposes -Targeted psyops campaigns through ads These are the immediate dangers. The rest like AI robots with machine guns are too far off in the future to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 These are the immediate dangers. The rest like AI robots with machine guns are too far off in the future to worry about. Yeah, the US military aren't working on autonomous drones at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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