How does the World view America these days?

[Candiru]

3 hours ago, MaartenVC said:

1.
I find it so incredibly sad (and infuriating) to see some (brainwashed or overly patriotic?) people completely ignore (and even blatantly protest against) smart preventive countermeasures that benefit all, while Healthcare Workers are doing literally all they can to fight Coronavirus (COVID-19)...

2.
All us humans have incredibly advanced brains, evolved over millions of years, but why are there (now, in the year 2020) still people (in highly developed countries) who do not seem to be schooled and/or raised more properly, not improving the potential of humankind's greatest trait (the brain)?

3.
We seem to think so little ahead, ignoring the far future of the consequences of our actions. Sometimes, I lose my confidence in humanity as an intelligent responsible species. Maybe our education and/or upbringing is flawed? Maybe the organization of our society is flawed? Maybe we need a few more million years of evolution?

Nevertheless, I do still carry the hope that humankind will strive for the better and reach higher and ever further.

Local governments in shitty states are shitty. We can't do anything about them, unfortunately. Maybe they'll all die after these protests so we don't have to form gulags when Biden wins. You got me. 

[Limo]

45 minutes ago, darreichungsform said:

Seems you guys don't only have a political problem but a societal one. Please fix your society, thanks

I’ll have you know Dutch people are setting fire to 4G antennas now because “5G causes Corona”. USA may be number one, but Holland definitely number two.

[milkface]

42 minutes ago, rhmilo said:

I’ll have you know Dutch people are setting fire to 4G antennas now because “5G causes Corona”. USA may be number one, but Holland definitely number two.

Is it really all coronavirus conspiracies though? Cause I remember seeing lots of anti-5G stuff months before the first news of covid19 started reaching us. I think luddites/ people concerned with surveillance are the militant ones burning the masts more than the coronavirus people.

[milkface]

Update: I hacked my local 5G mast to make it cure coronavirus. You're welcome.

[dingformung]

6 hours ago, rhmilo said:

I’ll have you know Dutch people are setting fire to 4G antennas now because “5G causes Corona”. USA may be number one, but Holland definitely number two.

In Holland it's a couple of loud nut jobs. In the USA they make up a good deal of the electorate. It's a difference. 

 

Edited April 21, 2020 by darreichungsform

[Limo]

14 minutes ago, darreichungsform said:

In Holland it's a couple of loud nut jobs.

 

One can hope.

[Limo]

26 minutes ago, milkface said:

Is it really all coronavirus conspiracies though? Cause I remember seeing lots of anti-5G stuff months before the first news of covid19 started reaching us. I think luddites/ people concerned with surveillance are the militant ones burning the masts more than the coronavirus people.

Apparently conspiracy nuts have latched onto 5G causing corona - or corona being a coverup for things caused by 5G - or ... whatever. I really don’t want to know more,  to be honest. The burning definitely started after the corona lockdown, though.

[Nebraska]

new covid-19 fetishes on the rise including fear porn israeli being called out

 

[Nebraska]

 

[ambermonk]

45 minutes ago, Nebraska said:

new covid-19 fetishes on the rise including fear porn israeli being called out

 

What in the actual fuck

[Rubin Farr]

Alex Jones needs to be fucking deported.

[ignatius]

15 minutes ago, timbre monke said:

What in the actual fuck

yeah.. that woman thinks she has it all figured out.  i really want to see footage of someone spitting in that guy's mouth. 

 

[ignatius]

4 minutes ago, Rubin Farr said:

Alex Jones needs to be fucking deported.

he needs to be dropped in the middle of an ocean at night.

[apriorion]

2 hours ago, Nebraska said:

new covid-19 fetishes on the rise including fear porn israeli being called out

 

Ugh. Did I just see a hateful, racist, bizarro Elizabeth Warren Doppleganger there? Weird. 

[Zephyr_Nova]

Well, I mean... that's a pretty clear case of mental illness (mixed with a heavy dose of racism, something she'd likely still have without the mental illness part).

That liberate Minnesota clip is a good example of people on that side who actually seem quite reasonable, but have also brainwashed by religion and that bizarro notion of what "freedom" means to so many of these people.  They've just accepted that people die for freedom, and how many is up to God.  So fucked up.  

[ignatius]

22 minutes ago, Zephyr_Nova said:

Well, I mean... that's a pretty clear case of mental illness (mixed with a heavy dose of racism, something she'd likely still have without the mental illness part).

That liberate Minnesota clip is a good example of people on that side who actually seem quite reasonable, but have also brainwashed by religion and that bizarro notion of what "freedom" means to so many of these people.  They've just accepted that people die for freedom, and how many is up to God.  So fucked up.  

i don't know.. i mean.. it's hard to say w/someexpressions of racism where the fuck it's coming from. i'm guessing fo rmost of her life she didn't even think about israel.  then one day she heard something/read something/watched infowars etc and got all the wrong 'answers' for her questions. idk.. if she'd gotten different answers maybe she'd still be all up in the butt of "zionists" and conspiracies but with the proper amount of information i think people can overcome some shit like this. "jews control the media" type stuff. people have a hard time challenging themselves on it though and seem to be lazy only when it's about learning something counter to their beliefs. so i'm probably full of shit. but if that one black guy can educate and befriend all those KKK asshole sand change their minds and get them to surrender their robes to him then i think this lady could learn some new facts to open her eyes about some things. 

but also, if she could just be made busy doing something productive and useful she might be better off just not having time to think about crazy shit. if she could just get involved with an organization that makes fudge for the blind... 

Edited April 21, 2020 by ignatius

[Zephyr_Nova]

4 minutes ago, ignatius said:

but if that one black guy and educate and befriend all those KKK asshole sand change their minds and get them to surrender their robes to him then i think this lady could learn some new facts to open her eyes about some things. 

I think the only hope for her is discarding one paranoid delusion for a different one.  The KKK assholes that fellow turned around seemed for the most part to be "sane" at least in the psychiatric sense of the word.  She's just always going to be on her own trip, and it's not going to be guided by reason.  That's my guess anyway.

[ignatius]

7 minutes ago, Zephyr_Nova said:

I think the only hope for her is discarding one paranoid delusion for a different one.  The KKK assholes that fellow turned around seemed for the most part to be "sane" at least in the psychiatric sense of the word.  She's just always going to be on her own trip, and it's not going to be guided by reason.  That's my guess anyway.

i'd have to hear her thoughts on flat earth, 5g towers, secret muslim presidents etc.. to confirm the diagnosis. 

[ambermonk]

Maybe the Confederates should have been granted secession rights after all, so they can all flock to Dixieland and leave the rest of us alone.

[Zephyr_Nova]

I look forward to the day when the world ceases to view America and just looks the other way.

[auxien]

Just now, Zephyr_Nova said:

I look forward to the day when the world ceases to view America and just looks the other way.

our monetary supremacy relies in large part upon us keeping the attention of the world (why Trump is not exactly surprising, really...) so I wouldn’t bet on that day coming any time soon.

[ignatius]

4 minutes ago, timbre monke said:

Maybe the Confederates should have been granted secession rights after all, so they can all flock to Dixieland and leave the rest of us alone.

the slaves though... 

Just now, auxien said:

our monetary supremacy relies in large part upon us keeping the attention of the world (why Trump is not exactly surprising, really...) so I wouldn’t bet on that day coming any time soon.

this is internal too. i mean.. the only reason trump is doing these long ridiculous daily press briefings is because he can't do rallies. 

[auxien]

28 minutes ago, ignatius said:

this is internal too. i mean.. the only reason trump is doing these long ridiculous daily press briefings is because he can't do rallies. 

of course, yeah. i'm looking at the global picture tho, was speaking more towards the decades of cultural tendencies of American supremacy in all ways at all things (obv this is very exaggerated and inflated) that has eventually resulted in a Trump happening. America's status at the top of the world is reliant largely on attitude and bluster but it isn't entirely hollow by any means either. all i'm saying is re: Zephyr's comment of ignoring America, yeah, that'd be great but also America is going to do everything it can to not let that happen. 

[Zephyr_Nova]

Yeah, I was going to add something about "it's the attention that gives them their power" but wanted to keep my post short 'n' snappy.

[auxien]

too late now, save the short and snappys for Twitter. this is an intelligent dance music forum, we need it drawn out and overlong with excessive and entirely useless amounts of detail.