doublename Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 There’s a quality pun to made out of breaking the Goldwater rule for Trump, but I can’t weave it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candiru Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 In Soviet Russia, the Goldwater Rule breaks you! *pee pee* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendish Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) A Group of Experts Wrote a Book About Donald Trump’s Mental Health—and the Controversy Has Just Begun http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/09/a-group-of-experts-wrote-a-book-about-donald-trumps-mental-health-and-the-controversy-has-just-begun/ There is an excellent Citations Needed podcast addressing these claims. I'd argue he's just a massive twat. Edited September 26, 2017 by bendish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 In ex-Soviet Russia, golden water showers you! Yes, if you happen to be Donald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Weiner is going to the sausage party http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/25/politics/anthony-weiner-sentencing/index.html I truly hope he disappears from politics after that. What an asshat. Still find it absurd how much he lived up to his name though - really can't write some of this shit! I don't think he'll be able to come back from all he's done with the cherry (ahem) on top being his sexually explicit online affair with a 15 year old. That sorta puts the nail in the coffin, for him. Maybe he'll find out in jail that he just really loves showing off his cock and all the lonely guys there love to see it, so who needs women? That whole 'subplot' really is surreal. Horny politician named Weiner cheats on his wife and is publicly shamed, she stands by him throughout (mirroring the wife's mentor Clinton's trials), then he fails again and again trying to rise back up to prominence, finally going beyond being just morally wrong and actually breaking the law. In the midst of the investigation into him, bullshit 'evidence' is found that dooms Clinton's election. It's going to make a great TV drama in 15 years. Or a shitty miniseries on CBS. I doubt he'll come back from prison with his cherry at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Can some americans explain this kneeling NFL business to me please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rubin Farr Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Trump is starting to remind me of Martin Sheen at the end of The Dead Zone, looking for an excuse to launch his own penissile. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-iran-missile-launch-fake-video-us-officials-says-duped-a7967076.html host gifs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Can some americans explain this kneeling NFL business to me please? During the height of cops-killing-black-civilians a year ago, a couple of NFL players decided to show their acknowledgment of it all by kneeling instead of standing during the national anthem, which is for some reason played before many sports games. I assume they thought it might get some attention and show some solidarity with those calling out the unfair treatment that often lead to killings. This was their own unique form of protest given their being on tv every week, basically. At least one of these guys didn't get on a team this year, most people assume because he was the main guy getting attention. Then a week ago Trump, during a stump speech for some congressman or something decided to talk shit about this all again. So this week many NFL players, teams, coaches, organizations members, etc, wanted to basically show Trump that he's out of line in what he said (some of these coaches and players are known Trump supporters). And also ya know they support the original cause....but most of them I think just wanted to leave the politics out of the game...because money, of course. But now they sort of felt like they had to hit back at Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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joshuatxuk Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Can some americans explain this kneeling NFL business to me please? During the height of cops-killing-black-civilians a year ago, a couple of NFL players decided to show their acknowledgment of it all by kneeling instead of standing during the national anthem, which is for some reason played before many sports games. I assume they thought it might get some attention and show some solidarity with those calling out the unfair treatment that often lead to killings. This was their own unique form of protest given their being on tv every week, basically. At least one of these guys didn't get on a team this year, most people assume because he was the main guy getting attention. Then a week ago Trump, during a stump speech for some congressman or something decided to talk shit about this all again. So this week many NFL players, teams, coaches, organizations members, etc, wanted to basically show Trump that he's out of line in what he said (some of these coaches and players are known Trump supporters). And also ya know they support the original cause....but most of them I think just wanted to leave the politics out of the game...because money, of course. But now they sort of felt like they had to hit back at Trump. Good summary. I've avoided it mostly but as auxien said, it's really now about asserting that individuals and private entities shouldn't bow down to the demands of an elected official, especially when they are in the form of hissy fit tweets. Best retort to those criticizing the kneeling players I've heard: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Warrior Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 The thing that was confusing me is that kneeling seems even more deferential than standing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 This, too, can be explained by a wounded ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 The thing that was confusing me is that kneeling seems even more deferential than standing? Same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 LOL like this illustration from the article as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olo Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 The thing that was confusing me is that kneeling seems even more deferential than standing? Heh. My wife was just saying that the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olo Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) North Korean government officials have been quietly trying to arrange talks with Republican-linked analysts in Washington, in an apparent attempt to make sense of President Trump and his confusing messages to Kim Jong Un’s regime. The outreach began before the current eruption of threats between the two leaders but will probably become only more urgent as Trump and Kim have descended into name-calling that, many analysts worry, sharply increases the chances of potentially catastrophic misunderstandings. “Their number one concern is Trump. They can’t figure him out,” said one person with direct knowledge of North Korea’s approach to Asia experts with Republican connections. lol. no shit. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/north-korea-seeks-help-from-republican-analysts-whats-up-with-trump/2017/09/26/ea91909e-a278-11e7-8c37-e1d99ad6aa22_story.html?utm_term=.f92046da8db6 Edited September 26, 2017 by olo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 The thing that was confusing me is that kneeling seems even more deferential than standing? Same The saddest thing to me, was Bob Costas was on CNN showing white and black fans yelling at each other and threatening to start fights at games. Sports was one of the last segments of American culture where even the most conservative white fans respected black players, and they all came together to cheer for their team. Now Trump has destroyed all of that. The one player who decided to come out of the locker and stand on the sidelines now has the highest selling football jersey. It's pathetic how Americans show their support or disdain for racial politics. Don't even get me started on the new Trump / Howard Stern transcripts that were released. Although they're 20 years old, there seems to be no limit to the depths this human piece of shit will sink to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshuatxuk Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 The thing that was confusing me is that kneeling seems even more deferential than standing? Same Sports was one of the last segments of American culture where even the most conservative white fans respected black players, and they all came together to cheer for their team. Now Trump has destroyed all of that. Yes and no. He's certainly fueling this fire though. There's been a nasty racist hypocrisy to sports in America, NFL in particular, where white (and latino, other minorities) fans will readily refer to black players as thugs and animals, etc. Yet they seem obligated to have sports as an entertainment options. Not to mention they approach this subjectively - i.e. point this out of teams they don't like while stay mute (mostly) if it's a player on a team they root for. Part of the protest is to affirm that you can't have your cake and eat it too. I have a weird perspective on this because I have no qualms standing for the flag but I've found it becoming such a superficial show now. Big football games always have some crazy fanfare with dancers, singers, fireworks not to mention a flyby by military jets and some token nod to US troops (which is at best well-meaning but often missing the point and condescending imo). America is ironically the most ignorant public in terms of knowing what the military does and who is in it yet positive, fanciful idolization of our military is everywhere. They watch their blockbusters with military war machine porn, always displayed with exaggerated abilities I might add, while in reality the US military is at it's most inefficient spending state ever while being smaller and more disarrayed since WW2. People don't reflect on the fact the US is still engaged in it's longest war in history. People don't realize that most US fighter jets are grounded at the moment because of maintenance issues and funding problems. They instead shout USA, have a brief freedom boner, then proceed to drinking a bud, eating overpriced nachos, and watching men brutally run into other for hours. These guys are protesting a tradition that's essentially been stripped of any meaning. That's the ironic part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 A meme I saw on FB this morning further proved the hypocrisy of the right, comparing the NFL players taking a knee on top to Kid Rock on the bottom, cutting a hole out of the center of the US flag and wearing it like a poncho. And this guy wants to run for senator??Brought to you by Carl's Jr. I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 on another note: congrats with another failed attempt to repeal and replace ocare..... and lets hope this is a learning experience for those in office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 on another note: congrats with another failed attempt to repeal and replace ocare..... and lets hope this is a learning experience for those in office. lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololollllll *sigh* *breathes heavily* lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol *cries* lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Warrior Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 RE: taking a knee as being deferential. You have to think about it in the handegg framework. If a team has a lead and the clock is almost out, the quarterback can kneel (take the knee) as a means of running out the time and winning the game. The opposite team usually doesn't defend rigorously because they know it's over and it's good sportsmanship. So, by taking the knee at the anthem, it's the ultimate "I'm sitting this shit out" in football terms and not how religion or monarchies see genuflection. Thanks for the explanation! I don't have the first clue about American football so I never would've made that connection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 apologies if this is posted already.. it's really well said.. excellent points. imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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