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echo the sentiments about actually connecting everything - you can't really call a collection of dusty electrical equipment stacked on top of each other a "studio". there is indeed loads of potential there and you've got almost everything you need for a pretty nice setup - a mixer and monitors would help though.

maybe sell the things you aren't ever going to use though? that akai sampler for instance, get rid of it mate, you're never going to use it.

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alco : looks cozy. Super nice synth collection too ! Current iteration : new screen, Push 2, new CPU, and just used the U87a for VO / video recording. Great mic.

Gear: Mackie XR624 monitors, Korg Monologue, Yamaha TX81Z, Alesis Quadraverb, Motu M4 interface, Ableton Push, Volcano vaporizer, my dog

It’s a little messy right now- I’ve been going thru an old Windows xp desktop backing up old songs, so it’s in the way. Also my good cassette deck is out for repair, pedalboard is out away, I have som

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Yeah, some of the best gear investments I've ever made were patchbays.  Not the cheapest patch bays, the slightly less cheap ones that are actually nice to use - I have one of those entry level Neutrik ones and the Neutrik jacks are so stiff and awkward to use that it has actually damaged 4 or 5 cables over the last few years.  When I needed a second one a couple years ago I spent a little more on a Samson S-patch plus and it's still inexpensive by patchbay standards

 

If you don't mind doing a lot of work you can get old high end used patchbays for next to nothing, but you'd probably need to literally submerge them in some kind of contact cleaner (I used to have a couple that someone was throwing out years ago and the old long-frame Switchcraft jacks in them are pretty indestructible but they get pretty oxidized) and do a LOT of soldering. The Samson is still cheap enough that they'll make fun of you i you mentio it on Gearslutz but it's a lot more solid than the Neutrik, plus you can change the normalling with front panel switches.

 

But yeah, a modestly priced patchbay and some cheap snakes from Monoprice got a lot of stuff that I'd picked up over the years and didn't use often enough to keep permanently hooked up but couldn't sell for enough to get rid of back into regular use.

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moved into a house in a beautiful place out in the coutry yesterday ? this is just a rough sketch of how I want to set up things, but it's already so so lovely here

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12 hours ago, TubularCorporation said:

Yeah, some of the best gear investments I've ever made were patchbays.  Not the cheapest patch bays, the slightly less cheap ones that are actually nice to use - I have one of those entry level Neutrik ones and the Neutrik jacks are so stiff and awkward to use that it has actually damaged 4 or 5 cables over the last few years.  When I needed a second one a couple years ago I spent a little more on a Samson S-patch plus and it's still inexpensive by patchbay standards

If you don't mind doing a lot of work you can get old high end used patchbays for next to nothing, but you'd probably need to literally submerge them in some kind of contact cleaner (I used to have a couple that someone was throwing out years ago and the old long-frame Switchcraft jacks in them are pretty indestructible but they get pretty oxidized) and do a LOT of soldering. The Samson is still cheap enough that they'll make fun of you i you mentio it on Gearslutz but it's a lot more solid than the Neutrik, plus you can change the normalling with front panel switches.

But yeah, a modestly priced patchbay and some cheap snakes from Monoprice got a lot of stuff that I'd picked up over the years and didn't use often enough to keep permanently hooked up but couldn't sell for enough to get rid of back into regular use.

Have you guys seen this?

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It's a pretty goofy/awkward chassis, but the idea is kind of brilliant because you can route stereo signals with one cable, and 1/8" plugs are just easier to deal with. Plus if you use volcas, pocket operators, iPads, etc. you don't need to get a bunch of converters or custom cables. I picked one up a few months back and didn't use it much, but now that lockdown has made my studio my home office, I think I'm going to start using it across the room from my mixer just to get the fuck away from the chair I sit in 8-12 hours a day.

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I've seen those but for what I'm doing, standard 48 point 1/4" balanced patchbays are what I need. I guess for a tabletop setup that could be pretty useful (I'm not a fan of 1/8" jacks myself) but for a rack based setup that wouldn't work at all. I'm mostly set up like a late 90s TV jingle studio or something, rack of synths on one side, rack of effects on the other, computer in the middle with the interface broken out to a patchbay with a couple of keyboards and my most-used reverb normalled to them so I can use them without any patching. I hardly have anything that uses 1/8", jsut a few eurorack modules I've built recently and use mostly for processing guitar.

 

Definitely a god design for a desktop based rig, though, and as much as having the 1/4" jacks around the edge like that seems like it would waste some space, the more I look at it the more it makes the actual signal routing more intuitive to follow.  Definitely a cool idea, but not right for my workflow.

 

As far as custom cables, I hate making cables so I definitely appreciate that.  I've been trying to be better about building format converter boxes instead but I don't usually have enclosures lying around so most of the time I end up needing some random cable right away and making it.  I've made a eurorack to banana box and a DIN MIDI to MMA-format 1/8" MIDI box but I still haven't made a big 1/8" to 1/4" box or a 1/4" to RCA box yet, which is what I really need most of the time.

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Not studio exactly, but things are finally really progressing on the DIY front.

 

Last week:

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Main board, i/o board and power board done, control board done exceot for a couple diodes, one capacitor, and the controls and screen.

 

Today:

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half of the spacers I've got on order showed up over the weekend, so I was able to temporarily mount the front panel so I could get the pots, encoders and switches aligned well.  All I need to do is install the OLED, power switch and headphone jack tomorrow and then assuming it all works I can install the firmware, test and calibrate all the controls and the MIDI i/o, and hopefully be ready to start making voice cards.  Been working on collecting parts for this thing since the end of March last year, can't wait to finish it.

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13 hours ago, sweepstakes said:

Have you guys seen this?

patchulator8000-gallery-01-800x800.jpg

It's a pretty goofy/awkward chassis, but the idea is kind of brilliant because you can route stereo signals with one cable, and 1/8" plugs are just easier to deal with. Plus if you use volcas, pocket operators, iPads, etc. you don't need to get a bunch of converters or custom cables. I picked one up a few months back and didn't use it much, but now that lockdown has made my studio my home office, I think I'm going to start using it across the room from my mixer just to get the fuck away from the chair I sit in 8-12 hours a day.

yeah those look cool but I prefer the aesthetic of having a nest of (mostly) 1/4” cables twisted and wrapped and sprawling everywhere. 
 

but honestly mostly just prefer being able to see and trace which cable is going where (since I change them up regularly)

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12 hours ago, TubularCorporation said:

Not studio exactly, but things are finally really progressing on the DIY front.

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re: 48pt patch bay.. the behringer PX3000 ultrapatch or whatever it's called.. is actually decent. i've had several of them for 10 years and so far so good. very easy to go from non-normaled, half normalled, full normal. 

i hated to support behringer but there really wasn't anything else out there that was any good for that price w/those features. the APC ones w/the plastic cartridges that you flip around are crap. and i wasn't about to solder connections on a real 48pt studio grade bay. 

 

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On 4/20/2020 at 2:07 AM, BCM said:

That akai sampler for instance, get rid of it mate, you're never going to use it.

Noooooo!

Haha I was given one of those and am determined to believe it's the coolest piece of gear I own.  I will never get rid of it.  But I also probably won't ever hook it up.

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Got the screen and socketed ICs in but I can't safely connect the main board to the control board to test it until the last of the spacers arrive, so for now I'm stalled. 

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That's one of the coolest blip blop machines on the planet so I bet it's worth the wait (and hassle)...

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On 4/21/2020 at 4:45 AM, TubularCorporation said:

Main board, i/o board and power board done, control board done exceot for a couple diodes, one capacitor, and the controls and screen.

Whats the quality of the pcbs like for soldering?  This is still on my possible list as next big diy project.

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They're nice, it's a really big build but so far it's actually not hard at all.  Even the SMT stuff isn't bad.

 

The one mistake I made (unless other things show up when I'm able to do a first real power up) was soldering the LEDs on the power distro board backward (they're those little 3mm LEDs with no flatted side, and I'm used to square pad = +/long leg, which it is for polarized electrolytics on these boards, but not for LEDs) and I did a pretty poor job of desoldering them , but it didn't do any harm to the board.

 

Definitely read through all of the unofficial documentation here carefully if you go for it, because there are a few big things you have to be aware of:

 

https://www.dsl-man.de/display/KIJIMI/KIJIMI+Documentation#KIJIMIDocumentation-Buildguide

 

And be aware that the changes listed in the BOM (at the very bottom of the spreadsheet) aren't all reflected in the Mouser cart, so there are a few resistors, caps, diodes and op amps you'll need to add or replace.  I foudn that out the hard way and it cost me some shipping time and costs.

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Mouser recently added a bunch of m2.5 standoff sizes, so you can get those easier now.  I just ordered the 12mm F-F I need to mount the main board to the control board, so I don't have to wait for the order from China to show up before I can test and move to voice cards.  Never hurts to have some spare spacers around in any size, and the order from China was only like $6 so not a big deal.

 

I really want to have this thing finished and running before my work reopens.

Anyone who's thinking about doing this, Würth Elektronik makes the spacer sizes you're after that Mouser stocks. When I ordered most of the parts last fall they didn't seem to carry anything in m2.5 7mm or 12mm.  Still can't find 6mm m2.5 black panhead screws on there, but those are cheap and easy to get on Amazon or eBay.

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Watching all these pictures I’ve learned that people are not fan of nice spacious tables with correctly positioned monitoring speakers, nor speakers in general.

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14 hours ago, xox said:

Watching all these pictures I’ve learned that people are not fan of nice spacious tables with correctly positioned monitoring speakers, nor speakers in general.

Have to make do or the alternative is to make no music at all ?

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5 hours ago, TheBro said:

Have to make do or the alternative is to make no music at all ?

 

2 hours ago, Leon Sumbitches said:

Aye, same here. Very thin walls/floor plus neighbours with kiddos means I have to do the decent thing and not be a cunty neighbour.  Strictly 'phones for now but hey ho.

you must try harder

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Correctly positioning speakers is pretty hard to do for most people, having a space big enough that you can put the listening position in the right spot is a stretch to begin with, much less treating it at all. I can't even toe in my speakers because I have to keep them less than a meter apart and toe-in even 10 degrees narrowed the stereo field so much that it was making it really hard to judge panning.

 

I'd love to have a room big enough that I could give up 1/3 of the length to proper seating position but I don't see that happening any time soon.

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