Amen Warrior Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Do you get the vibe he's a lovely bloke though? I feel like he's his own brand of cunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Congrats on keeping May! You guys are living the dream There is no obvious alternative at present. Corbyn is really showing his true colours this week (a kind of muddy brown / grey) He is great at telling other people that their opinions are shite without actually bringing any of his own to the table. The fact that he doesn't want to meet with Maybot to discuss Brexit tells me that he has no opinions of his own that are worth discussing. Saying that "we are a democratic party and our members will decide" is horseshit and I hope the members soon decide to boot him out and find someone with a spine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 She's pathetic though. Should've resigned a long time ago. Embarrassing how long she's been clinging on to her position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Well yes, pathetic is a good word for her. Also: Determined / thick skinned / deluded / etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drome Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 ^ Add shameless to the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BCM Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 Do you get the vibe he's a lovely bloke though? I feel like he's his own brand of cuntI kind of agree yes, but I know a couple of people who have met him and said he was really nice. They are ardent Corbyn supporters though... Yeah he's probably a cunt as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Congrats on keeping May! You guys are living the dream There is no obvious alternative at present. Corbyn is really showing his true colours this week (a kind of muddy brown / grey) He is great at telling other people that their opinions are shite without actually bringing any of his own to the table. The fact that he doesn't want to meet with Maybot to discuss Brexit tells me that he has no opinions of his own that are worth discussing. Saying that "we are a democratic party and our members will decide" is horseshit and I hope the members soon decide to boot him out and find someone with a spine. see, where are you getting your news from? it was may that excluded corbyn from crossparty talks after the vote lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caze Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 There is no obvious alternative at present. Corbyn is really showing his true colours this week (a kind of muddy brown / grey) He is great at telling other people that their opinions are shite without actually bringing any of his own to the table. The fact that he doesn't want to meet with Maybot to discuss Brexit tells me that he has no opinions of his own that are worth discussing. Saying that "we are a democratic party and our members will decide" is horseshit and I hope the members soon decide to boot him out and find someone with a spine. I don't think that's accurate, they've been fairly clear and consistent on what their brexit strategy is. The problem though is that it's just as unworkable and unrealistic as the Tory version. This bullshit has been going on for years now and everyone involved seems to be still struggling with the basics: you want continued access to the single market and the customs regime, you have to take its rules and obligations, this is non-negotiable. The UKs red lines prevent this (and this applies both to Labour and the Conservatives) then fine, we can have a free trade deal instead (which Labour won't advocate because of their own party divisions). This means we need a separate regime to operate in Northern Ireland though (so the Conservatives can't go this route, because of the DUP). All of this has been apparent since before the referendum (with the exception of May losing her majority and allowing the DUP to factor into the debate) and most of the politicians are either still clueless to these facts, or are just pretending to be for dumb political reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcock Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 he has also been clear on his alternate plan for brexit, keeping the customs union completely intact being his main priority. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/18/jeremy-corbyn-to-set-out-labour-alternative-to-pms-brexit-plan it would make more sense for him to oppose brexit, but to be fair to him, he has been sceptical of the EU the whole time it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worms Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Corbyn is the only alternative to a Tory government. The poor and homeless will be better off under a Labour government. Opinion polls are quite wrong most of the time imo.Always check the voting figures, they are more reliable. In the 2017 general election May won 13,636,684 votes. Corbyn won 12,878,460 votes. What does it mean? Well if you look at the votes for Labour and Tory were piss poor before the EU referendum. Going against Brexit is electoral suicide. There's a hardcore on twitter and maybe 2 million die hard Liberal Democrat remainers but they don't represent the country at large. 2017 Tory 13,636,684 Labour 12,878,460 Libdem 2,371,910 2015 Tory 11,334,226 Labour 9,347,273 Libdem 2,415,916 UKIP 3,881,099 See, Jeremy Corbyn is a far more popular leader than the press lead us to believe. Brexit is a popular policy with Labour voters. Corbyn took Labour from 9 milion votes to nearly 13 million votes. That's a massive jump. His strategy doesn't need to be complicated.He needs to let the Tory party destroy itself. The Tory voters want a hard no deal Brexit. May isn't delivering what the Tory voters want. The danger for Corbyn is if the Tories get a hardcore right wing leader, until then it looks like he can beat May in the next election. If you look at the numbers, it seems like many UKIP voters returned to their original party in the 2017 election. Anyway, I'm not trying to troll anyone, merely to demonstrate that the number of votes cast in an election is more representative than media propaganda and opinion polls. I did vote Corbyn at the last election. It was an easy one for me. The poor and homeless will be better off with Corbyn as Prime Minister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caze Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) The main thing the number of votes cast in the last election suggest is that Corbyn is less popular than May. There has been no evidence since then to suggest this will be any different next time around. His brexit strategy has even seen his support within in his own party decline since then. It's true that there are votes to be won in the north of England by supporting brexit, but there are lots of votes to be lost in the big metropolitan areas too, and among young people generally. He'd have been far better off focusing on and energising a single base of voters, the ones who were already pretty excited about him to begin with, instead of pissing them off. https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/yougov-poll-finds-remain-now-has-largest-lead-witnessed-since-brexit-referendum-1-5855346 The poor and homeless will be better off with Corbyn as Prime Minister. This also isn't true, and there'll be more of them. Edited January 17, 2019 by caze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triachus Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caze Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markedone Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) lol they should blast this in pariament Edited January 17, 2019 by Marked x 0ne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendish Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/opinion/sunday/brexit-ireland-empire.html Nice summary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwmbrancity Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 how is this possible someone is making money out of it somewhere so it goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 It's ok, we got this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tec Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Everything about Gove screams cunt but he likes Dennis Wheatley, it's so at odds with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drome Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 how is this possible someone is making money out of it somewhere so it goes Snouts in the trough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwmbrancity Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 & the Zabriskie Point ost Everything about Gove screams cunt but he likes Dennis Wheatley, it's so at odds with him. strangely, everything makes sense now imagine wicker pentagrams in his office and home, while Gove & Sarah Vine slaughter orphans appropriated through the anonymous heir to Sir James of Savile, crunching through their entrails in a bath of fresh blood while she conjures her Daily Smell column spells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Its back on! Possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 Is it fuck. Whole thing is completely untenable, always has been. My prediction is extention of Article 50 for 9 months, then inevitable second vote at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Some of dem sweet brexit memes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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