Guest Rulohead32 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 V(ullwal)Letrmx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pixelives Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Sounds a bit live jammy, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 not ae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Lare Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 It's really reminiscent of Ts1a and just a little bit of deco Loc (in vocal manipulation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kausto Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 not ae sean booth solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rulohead32 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 wow imagine the duo splits up and they keep doing the same shit but twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderpansen Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 yeah, the ts1a connection seems apparent... i like the "pads" or whatevs, just saw escape from new york yesterday, ties in nicely with that carpenter mood. i like, authentic or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Lare Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 sound like a ts1a and r ess hybrid Yeah, also beatwork resembles r ess in skipping effect. So it forms some kind of a connection bridge between r ess, ts1a, t ess xi, deco Loc and tac Lacora. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 V(ullwal)Letrmx hi Johnathan Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 not ae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kausto Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 not ae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) i guess i'm just not one of these people that is 'tired' of being technically blown away by IDM-ish music made by the heroes I looked up to for so long, not just autechre but Aphex and Squarepusher as well. I understand that we aren't in an era where the goal is 'who can produce the most intricate high BPM drill pattern', but i still miss what I'm referring to Exai IS really intricate though in my opinion. It seemed like a return to rhythmic detail after the jamminess of Quaristice and the melody focused approach of Oversteps. Could it be more of an aesthetic thing that you're describing? The thick heaving molasses of Exai is a different kind of detail, less of the sharp/precise micro edits but instead with insane layerings of morphing complexities. I mean it could be argued I suppose that its an aesthetic preference, but I think it's pretty clear that they've abandoned or at least loosened their approach to this type of micro-detail composition. In exai the morphing complexities you speak of feel much less deliberate, automated with LFOS and more random than anything on Draft, Confield or Gantz Graf. and in response to Pixelives, its interesting to call that sound 'dated' because i think you at least in part have an understanding of what I mean, that that amount of detail and audible work/effort put into an Autechre record is a thing of the past, they have't used that approach since Untilted, and that album was widely considered a 'skeletal' more minimal version of the detailed work they did in the previous 2 albums. And while I would agree that if they simply did another Draft it would sound dated, if they took the same amount of detail on that album and applied it to the Exai ethos, in terms of audible perceptible detail I think the album would sound a lot different. For me they're still working in the sort of jammy/improv zone and using that mindset as a basis for the tracks. I'm not saying anything is inherently wrong with that, I still like Exai. I'm just suggesting that to only put 4 tracks on an album gives me the hope they will be strong and maybe even technically impressive tracks, not hoping for a gantz graf perse just hoping for the same quality and level of detail/work Edited September 30, 2013 by John Ehrlichman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pixelives Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 i guess i'm just not one of these people that is 'tired' of being technically blown away by IDM-ish music made by the heroes I looked up to for so long, not just autechre but Aphex and Squarepusher as well. I understand that we aren't in an era where the goal is 'who can produce the most intricate high BPM drill pattern', but i still miss what I'm referring to Exai IS really intricate though in my opinion. It seemed like a return to rhythmic detail after the jamminess of Quaristice and the melody focused approach of Oversteps. Could it be more of an aesthetic thing that you're describing? The thick heaving molasses of Exai is a different kind of detail, less of the sharp/precise micro edits but instead with insane layerings of morphing complexities. I mean it could be argued I suppose that its an aesthetic preference, but I think it's pretty clear that they've abandoned or at least loosened their approach to this type of micro-detail composition. In exai the morphing complexities you speak of feel much less deliberate, automated with LFOS and more random than anything on Draft, Confield or Gantz Graf. and in response to Pixelives, its interesting to call that sound 'dated' because i think you at least in part have an understanding of what I mean, that that amount of detail and audible work/effort put into an Autechre record is a thing of the past, they have't used that approach since Untilted, and that album was widely considered a 'skeletal' more minimal version of the detailed work they did in the previous 2 albums. And while I would agree that if they simply did another Draft it would sound dated, if they took the same amount of detail on that album and applied it to the Exai ethos, in terms of audible perceptible detail I think the album would sound a lot different. For me they're still working in the sort of jammy/improv zone and using that mindset as a basis for the tracks. I'm not saying anything is inherently wrong with that, I still like Exai. I'm just suggesting that to only put 4 tracks on an album gives me the hope they will be strong and maybe even technically impressive tracks, not hoping for a gantz graf perse just hoping for the same quality and level of detail/work It would be interesting to hear Exai as a "dry" version, without all the ample reverb sends (which I love btw). One of the reasons the early 2000's records show all that impressive detail is the lack of reverb smear. But yes it is different, as well. The new approach is LFO automation of parameters, slowly changing, not the zoomed in micro approach. One of the reasons I like the new approach is that it reminds me of the room recordings of live sets in a way. Again this hardware thing, which they are still into it seems. Something I also like and gravitate towards in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Spent an hour to find the source for the leak, it's out there since 19th of September http://rbt.asia/mu/thread/S40118160 The fuck WATMM, how you missed it? is this track legit? *downloads in mysterious anticipation* if one track leaked that means the whole EP did already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) not ae I think it's ae. If it's not someone did a brilliant job. At least it's very hard to tell. It easily sounds like an alt-exai track. Edited September 30, 2013 by Joseph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rulohead32 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 not ae I think it's ae. If it's not someone did a brilliant job. At least it's very hard to tell. It easily sounds like an alt-exai track. It's from the Swiss deluxe edition. Its original name is "Zurich 2011" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ooze Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 downloading it 2, goddaemn you watmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 well, it could be ae track but inferior in all aspects comparing to any track from exai... it's still very good so i can't be 100% sure only i hope it's not ae not ae I think it's ae. If it's not someone did a brilliant job. At least it's very hard to tell. It easily sounds like an alt-exai track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) Even the far-off background sounds are a lot like runrepik. I'm actually liking it a lot, except the weird blatant vocals. Edited September 30, 2013 by Joseph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) if it's not legit someone did a pretty good job of imitating the Exai sound. I like the track after the halfway point. Its hard to tell but the bass sounds distorted but in sort of intentional dirt but polished style they've been doing a lot lately. at 5:00 - it's pretty fucking cool, wish there was more of that. can really hear the weird faux distortion in that partthe beginning sounds like a really fucked up Eclipse Eventide patch edit: most convincing part of this for me is that odd distortion on the bass sound. I've never really hard any other producers making this kind of effect besides Autechre. They did it on Illanders a little bit. Not even sure what the effect is. The best I can describe it is some kind of ring modulation running at a frequency that makes our brain feel like it's being overdriven or distorted but its not exactly. Anybody else know what im talking about? it almost sounds like it's being modulated with something that's almost a square wave but not quite, like a very rounded off but still squarey wave Edited September 30, 2013 by John Ehrlichman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 someone said it's too messy and i agree. it's very disparate. sounds like someone looking to make an ae inspired track with elektron stuff. the ending is nice imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Yeah the ending is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) anybody take a guess on what kind of effect that 'distortion' on the bassline is ? Especially clear sounding 5 minutes onwardthe main thing that makes me think this is a fake is A) sounds like elements we've heard before on other AE tracks no 'surprises' B) if it's watermarked won't this dude already be caught for just the one track? If he's willing to take that risk why not leak the entire thing? Edited September 30, 2013 by John Ehrlichman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acroyear Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Great track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 gl0tch pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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