Soloman Tump Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, BCM said: yeah no more big anything. i'd fuck that idea off entirely and go with genre based subforums - techno, drum and bass, acid, electro etc. bit like a record shop. as long as one of the categories is "autechre" then yeah, fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronical Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 the BOC subforum should just link to twoism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitchroast Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 a lot of the time the subforums get ramped up in activity with a new album release, and then you 've got one main thread where all the discussion is happening. the "Autechre exai album discussion" thread or whatever. but then someone will make a thread in New Releases as well and that'll only ramp up 2 pages of posts, with someone saying "huh guess noone is interested in the new autechre?".. then Rubin Farr or someone will create a thread in Music General along the lines of "Fact Magazine posted a Tweet about upcoming Autechre album" .. and now you've got 3 threads of discussion just about the same thing. and ultimately, all of this could be simplified if there was no autechre suforum and the discussion stayed in a single thread in Music Discussion alongside all the other new album and artist discussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCM Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 fuck all the forums and subforums. let's just have one thread for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitchroast Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 the WATMM is Dying thread will do. did you hear about the new autechre copyright licences for One Six? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 tbh, the thing about new releases of artist which also have their own subforum is annoying as hell. that nonsense where there's basically the same thread in two subforums shouldn't be a thing. bit of a nerd angle, but can't we solve this by creating an alias or something? both directing to the same thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, usagi said: roses are red, WATMM is sad, I shall replace joyrex with usagi As my idm dad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronical Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 can someone faceapp autechre (pls) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadameChaos Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 WATMM is dying Violets are blue www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLl0DVzRksk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/21/2019 at 1:00 PM, eczem said: Old Bean On 7/21/2019 at 1:37 PM, hello spiral said: Fuck me fucking cunts is fucking quality On 7/21/2019 at 1:45 PM, drome said: fucking On 7/21/2019 at 1:53 PM, hello spiral said: fucking On 7/21/2019 at 1:55 PM, drome said: On 7/21/2019 at 2:13 PM, hello spiral said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozex Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 No worries, I am back, It will be back alive soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronical Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 mozex saves the day. praise be upon thee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 The hero we deserve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Salvation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 15 hours ago, ligma said: a major issue is the fact that the new chat feature is only truly functional (marginally) all-in on browser and not functional or below-functional on mobile. Discord has a dedicated app on mobile that is well beyond the functionality of the very bad and annoying chatbox on mobile, which has no history viewing, bad scrolling, clunky and bluky usage of font/size/color/link inclusion, posting images, etc. I'm certain you've seen and/or used discord on mobile, on desktop app and also through a browser before you chose to nix it as a viable chat option. I feel like rather than celebrate discord for its strengths, you knock it for the learning curve it requires to fully integrate with the site, and of course, the challenges it poses for you to fully control, moderate and ultimately censor it if something you don't like is posted. It feels to me like you only are concerned with your ability to control the discussion rather than include a truly functional and enjoyable chat experience. at the end of the day of course its your site and you make the big decisions, so if you're truly happy with the chat feature, then the users here have to accept that. on the other hand, you will also have to accept the fact that the users here will choose to use other platforms if this one does not suit their needs. Well, I really didn't expect people to use Chat on Mobile, but I can see what the developer and I can do to improve the experience - you've mentioned a few things, so that's a start. I've worked with the developer (who is very responsive to feedback) and they've added new features such as person-to-person chat, chat rooms, logs, etc. - you might be surprised at all that's been added since you probably last used it. The biggest issue with the Discord is the fact that it's not part of WATMM - it's a separate site. Also, moderation is difficult there since it can tend to be a free for all and again, I don't want others' bad behaviour reflecting upon me/this site. It's very difficult to strike a balance between stifling discussion and allowing people the freedom to express themselves adequately. 14 hours ago, auxien said: A couple posts after this I expanded partly on this idea (as i know you actually have a life unlike, ahem, some of the rest us). A trusted couple of mods who spared a few extra minutes every couple months, as a filter for the larger community, to implement different featured artist or label sections. Either permanent or temporary, depending on what felt right/worked. Wouldn't have to be anything more than a sidebar with FEATURED LABEL OF AUGUST: SHITFUCKER RECORDS! with a link to the most recent thread or two that's part of this (again, permanent or temporary) subforum. I'm not trying to overestimate the ease, but I'd imagine creating a new subforum under New & Upcoming Releases for labels (or under Featured Artists, wherever) wouldn't be much more difficult than deciding on a name and telling the main forum where that content lives, yeah? You've been experimenting with sidebars so i'd guess that aspect would be easy. Idk, just trying to be proactive i guess. Featured artists subs are pretty dead besides AE/AFX. Just start including others. If someone pulls a Vsnares and gets their panties in a wad at 'being featured on this forum' then fuck 'em, take the subf down. easy. Otherwise, try some shit out. Legowelt subforum when? hell, start a Tycho subforum if you really want, idc. Why not an Analogic Force or CPU records subforum? These labels are generally hot and having dedicated areas to coordinate their releases would be great for their fans (re: the users here!) But ultimately letting a few trusted community members (i'd be worried about Featured Label decisions by polls/committee but maybe that would be fairest? idk) put in some effort with a couple mods to filter things out, you don't have to do much of anything at all Joyrex, or am i wrong? as long as it doesn't get out of hand with like 30 featured artists or a featured label subforum with zero interest, it COULD bring some freshness. but.... ultimately what i'm getting at is try a little something. doesn't have to be big or grand or whatever, or even any ideas i'm talking about. the new forum upgrade has been generally good and positive and we know you've talked about a BIG watmm 2.0 or something with lots of stuff but honestly that's been hinted at for years, and requires a lot of work on the back end i'd imagine and just doesn't seem very likely to actually happen. in the meantime at least just go where the community is going, gotta fight that staleness that feels present even with the new forum upgrade: the content is essentially the exact same (which is fine and great but it's not growing is my point). also, regarding other comments: it's still VERY much a boy's club here which i know you or anyone alone can't fix, but i think having the forum content stay fresh and diverse and interesting will hopefully attract a more diverse crowd and (i think i speak for almost everyone except the old wretched cunts here): a diverse crowd of people sharing music is a great thing for everyone involved. The biggest issue with even temporary subforums for artists or labels is just like our Featured Artists, they can go dormant from time to time or permanently, and then you're left with exactly what you're citing the existing subforums for. The Music Discussion subforum was meant to fill that need of discussing other artists/labels, so I'm not sure if you're suggesting compartmentalizing it further or what... I do agree that we need more hands-on community involvement, and one of the ideas I've had for some time is to have content contributors - not just on the forum, but for the eventual Discography and Articles section (I'm getting the main page laid out as far as getting back to publishing topical news about electronic music that will also generate a thread where people can discuss the news item), and other content ideas. I get what you're saying about being a bit more experimental and just try something on the fly - I just worry that some might become Pandora's boxes and once they're out there, it's hard to roll them back/take it away. The forum upgrade was primarily out of necessity due to the version of the software we were on no longer being supported, and the software finally giving me the features I needed to grow the site overall without a bunch of custom programming, which there still will be, but not as much as if I was designing and writing everything from scratch. I'm surprised you say it's still very much a boy's club here - I haven't seen (nor have I had to issue any warnings regarding) pornography or "mature" content here that veers a bit too far from our musical mandate. If there are areas that I'm overlooking, please let me know and I'll do my best to address them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colunga Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 WATMM RADIO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usagi Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 hours ago, hello spiral said: I shall replace joyrex with usagi As my idm dad I haven't started posting MegaLOLs in the dank memes thread though (yet). that, if anything, is the final horseman of the apocalypse for this place, the downward arc of the executioner's axe. wonder if I can kidnap and enslave prdct for my lifetime free supply, that's all I need. btw big lol @ anyone insisting this isn't about the music or that musical diversity is something to look at sideways in the land of pure idems. taking that position is so alien to me I don't even know how to begin having a conversation about it, nor do I really want to. like, why are you even here? what reason is there for this forum to thrive if not for those reasons? if I wanted to watch grown adults act out their highschool clique fantasies I'd... I dunno, come read WATMM once in a blue moon, I guess. also any WATMM chat situation, whether it's some incarnation of CHATMM or Discord or whatever, eventually degenerates into a cancerous edgelord racist/sexist echo-chamber shithole, because IDM white boys can't help themselves when they think people aren't watching. prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 36 minutes ago, colunga said: WATMM RADIO Might still be called that, but basically it will be comprised (initially) of EKT tracks submitted by the community! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colunga Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Joyrex said: Might still be called that, but basically it will be comprised (initially) of EKT tracks submitted by the community! Glad to know the idea is still alive and possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 That too required the forum upgrade - what's great is it has an integrated player that doesn't reload as you navigate around the site! The other part is getting the Wasabi storage set up - 1TB should be sufficient for all our Downloads and EKT content to come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Did you change the default fonts a minute ago. Is this Lucida? (not saying good or bad. just surprised the page was in different font all of a sudden) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Yeah, went from Roboto to Open Sans - I wanted Maven Pro, but can't be arsed to put it into the stylesheets... I think it's a bit more readable... does anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manmower Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Readability feels about the same, seems to waste more space on mobile compared to the previous font though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Yeah, it is a bit wider overall - I think the font size (on mobile) needs adjusting though regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I like the change. Not sure it's better. It's an "airy" font. Takes more space. Which is fine in large spaces. But not in tiny spaces like below the avatar. Looking at Usagi's account info below his avatar, the text turns into spaghetti. So it's a difficult one, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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