hello spiral Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I come back after 8hrs and like 5 threads are bumped. I know it has slow periods/phases, but this seems not that. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Please reply to my YLCs thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ligma Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I think a new compilation will be the a big shot in the arm for WATMM. Perfect solution to the lack of posts here. Also, I think the lack of posts here is due to the popularity of the new chat feature. I mean, it's positively hopping whenever I go in there. Good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goiter Sanchez Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Could the paywall be dissuading new members? I know it's minuscule but people are lazy and obstacle adverse... Perhaps JR has stats on this post paywall implementation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Goiter Sanchez said: Could the paywall be dissuading new members? I know it's minuscule but people are lazy and obstacle adverse... Perhaps JR has stats on this post paywall implementation. a little bird told me *hundreds* of people have gone through the sign up process until they hit the "fuck u pay me" stage, and then they bail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ligma Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 whenever access to something is monetized, it makes people believe it holds value, encouraging people to pay up because what they receive must be worth the money if they're willing to charge for it, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goiter Sanchez Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Yeah... I feel like it may be for the greater good if the signup paywall were abolished and we had a Patreon for JR or something to that effect. As a longtime poster who comes at least once a day I'd feel obliged to throw down for the expenses were the option present and obviously so (this probably already exists and I am just not observing it on a sidebar or something). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomTssPhace Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Wearing red to the funeral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Oh shit, you have to pay to be a lowly member now? That would explain things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limo Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, sheatheman said: Please reply to my YLCs thanks Couldn’t find anything of yours on the first three pages, so, sorry, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 It's due to the way "my content" is no longer organized for easy viewing of updated threads you're participating in. Ease of use has been diminished and so people post less. That's my theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkface Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, Goiter Sanchez said: Could the paywall be dissuading new members? I know it's minuscule but people are lazy and obstacle adverse... Perhaps JR has stats on this post paywall implementation. " Most members ever online was 334, last accomplished on 21 hours ago. " I think you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 perhaps it is because the core of watmm is a bunch of irreverent egotists who use their intellects to put down others - that have no real passion for music but rather use this idm forum as an outlet for their elitist pretensions...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Zephyr_Nova said: It's due to the way "my content" is no longer organized for easy viewing of updated threads you're participating in. Ease of use has been diminished and so people post less. That's my theory. not sure if you're joking, but yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Bring back gaargs mspaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diatoms Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 bump:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Salvatorin said: perhaps it is because the core of watmm is a bunch of irreverent egotists who use their intellects to put down others - that have no real passion for music but rather use this idm forum as an outlet for their elitist pretensions...? This. I've only been around for a year, but it's evident that WATMM is an awfully toxic place full of inside jokes which only people who came here 50 years ago get. And if you didn't come here 50 years ago you're an alien. But I have no one IRL to talk about IDMz so I'm here to put up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted July 16, 2019 Author Share Posted July 16, 2019 psst, hey buddy. That line is also an inside joke :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goiter Sanchez Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, lickneonlights said: This. I've only been around for a year, but it's evident that WATMM is an awfully toxic place full of inside jokes which only people who came here 50 years ago get. And if you didn't come here 50 years ago you're an alien. But I have no one IRL to talk about IDMz so I'm here to put up with it. Good luck out there... :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronical Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 30 minutes ago, hello spiral said: a little bird told me *hundreds* of people have gone through the sign up process until they hit the "fuck u pay me" stage, and then they bail LOL - your "little bird" wouldn't happen to be my Google Analytics, would it? 'cause you don't have access to that, do you? 26 minutes ago, Goiter Sanchez said: Yeah... I feel like it may be for the greater good if the signup paywall were abolished and we had a Patreon for JR or something to that effect. As a longtime poster who comes at least once a day I'd feel obliged to throw down for the expenses were the option present and obviously so (this probably already exists and I am just not observing it on a sidebar or something). The requirement for all new and renewing members to purchase a subscription has been in place since August 2013 - six years now. I implemented it because it was the same small group of people supporting the site, and in the interest of fairness I wanted everyone to contribute. The plan was to grandfather in the Members with a cutoff date TBD where posting would require a subscription, but I've held off on that, mostly due to the delayed forum upgrade, which is now done. 21 minutes ago, Gocab said: Oh shit, you have to pay to be a lowly member now? That would explain things Again, been like that since 2013. 10 minutes ago, Zephyr_Nova said: It's due to the way "my content" is no longer organized for easy viewing of updated threads you're participating in. Ease of use has been diminished and so people post less. That's my theory. Care to expand on that? The Content Streams feature should be able to give you a customized experience that should meet most people's needs... Now, with all that said - I am open to the idea of allowing optional subscriptions, Patreon, etc. as long as it doesn't result in resentment towards people who aren't paying, or who have never paid, etc. I am not really keen on the idea of Google AdSense or ads in general (plus people just AdBlock them). We do make enough each month to cover our hosting and software costs on a regular basis now, and if things did get dire I could always do public outreach as I did in the past (although as I mentioned, I didn't think it was fair for the same bunch of people always paying while the majority got a 'free ride'. One of my fears is if we open the floodgates so to speak, would the overall quality go down? You could argue the pay-to-play model keeps the trolls out (I can't recall the last time we banned anybody for instance). I certainly want WATMM to grow, and we go through periods of slowness - but I assure you, we are very heavily trafficked, even if users aren't directly participating: As you can see, that's 1 year's worth of analytics, and almost 90% are new people - I haven't wired in the subscribing users into GA yet so I can see how that tracks, so I can't really give hard numbers on that just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Summer, innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, chronical said: lol Sometimes the squeaky wheel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 In the screenshot the graph notably declines towards the end, which is what spi's talking about, I guess? Funny to see a spike in August 2018 – could be due to the Collapse EP release and discussion? It was hot, as far as I can remember. Bring back dem dayz Edit: nvm, just noticed it says "Users", not views, so not sure what to make of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManjuShri Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, lickneonlights said: This. I've only been around for a year, but it's evident that WATMM is an awfully toxic place full of inside jokes which only people who came here 50 years ago get. And if you didn't come here 50 years ago you're an alien. But I have no one IRL to talk about IDMz so I'm here to put up with it. Aww We still love you bro :love: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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