Wes Anderson - Moonrise Kingdom

[acid1]

it sorta falls apart because there's no real conflict, imo.

 

I'd say there was a major conflict for pretty much every character in that story. The two biggest being Richie & Margo & Eli, the other being Royal & Ethleen & Sherman.

[azatoth]

[Adieu]

anderson's only weak movie is the royal tenenbaums and that's because it's the most transparently "first world problems of rich urbanites" movie. it sorta falls apart because there's no real conflict, imo.

 

actually, it's been a while since i've watched it so i might be entirely wrong.

 

You're "entirely wrong". It is better than Darjeeling and Life Aquatic in my opinion. How are first world problems not a conflict? Every single one of his movies is based on first world problems. No one is ever having trouble sustaining their own life in any of his movies. They are all based on well established people who are having trouble coping with their lives and their relationships with one another. It is all about finding something meaningful in the superficial. A good reflection on first world society. Everyone is wearing designer clothing, but they can't figure out how to have a reasonable relationship. It's like their own ingrained cynicism is barrier between any of them being truly happy.

[sweepstakes]

I've never been able to get into Wes Anderson. His attention to detail is impressive but the sets and costumes feel like breathless Etsy porn, and I couldn't relate to the smug, bored characters. I don't think I've been able to stay awake for more than 30 minutes of any of them.

 

Every single one of his movies is based on first world problems. No one is ever having trouble sustaining their own life in any of his movies. They are all based on well established people who are having trouble coping with their lives and their relationships with one another. It is all about finding something meaningful in the superficial. A good reflection on first world society. Everyone is wearing designer clothing, but they can't figure out how to have a reasonable relationship. It's like their own ingrained cynicism is barrier between any of them being truly happy.

 

This actually makes me curious about them. Maybe I missed something. I should probably watch them earlier in the day when I'm less liable to fall asleep and I can fold laundry or pay bills while I watch if it gets too boring.

[Candiru]

anderson's only weak movie is the royal tenenbaums and that's because it's the most transparently "first world problems of rich urbanites" movie. it sorta falls apart because there's no real conflict, imo.

 

actually, it's been a while since i've watched it so i might be entirely wrong.

 

You're "entirely wrong". It is better than Darjeeling and Life Aquatic in my opinion. How are first world problems not a conflict? Every single one of his movies is based on first world problems. No one is ever having trouble sustaining their own life in any of his movies. They are all based on well established people who are having trouble coping with their lives and their relationships with one another. It is all about finding something meaningful in the superficial. A good reflection on first world society. Everyone is wearing designer clothing, but they can't figure out how to have a reasonable relationship. It's like their own ingrained cynicism is barrier between any of them being truly happy.

 

Yeah, I guess I agree with you Adieu. But after watching Darjeeling a couple of times, I really couldn't see it as anything besides a boring, hollow film where things happen, but none of them matter at all because every character is stiff as a board and ungrateful, but not even in an interesting way like Steve Zissou was. I think Darjeeling is his only genuinely shit film. The new one looks good though, will watch.

[Adieu]

anderson's only weak movie is the royal tenenbaums and that's because it's the most transparently "first world problems of rich urbanites" movie. it sorta falls apart because there's no real conflict, imo.

 

actually, it's been a while since i've watched it so i might be entirely wrong.

 

You're "entirely wrong". It is better than Darjeeling and Life Aquatic in my opinion. How are first world problems not a conflict? Every single one of his movies is based on first world problems. No one is ever having trouble sustaining their own life in any of his movies. They are all based on well established people who are having trouble coping with their lives and their relationships with one another. It is all about finding something meaningful in the superficial. A good reflection on first world society. Everyone is wearing designer clothing, but they can't figure out how to have a reasonable relationship. It's like their own ingrained cynicism is barrier between any of them being truly happy.

 

Yeah, I guess I agree with you Adieu. But after watching Darjeeling a couple of times, I really couldn't see it as anything besides a boring, hollow film where things happen, but none of them matter at all because every character is stiff as a board and ungrateful, but not even in an interesting way like Steve Zissou was. I think Darjeeling is his only genuinely shit film. The new one looks good though, will watch.

 

I had issues with Darjeeling because of some of the lines and the acting, but overall I like it because of how easily I can relate to it. Hotel Chevalier was an almost direct representation of things that were happening to me at the time with this girl I was seeing. I'm also the youngest of 3 boys with somewhat distant parents and the way all three of them feel and act in the movie I could understand completely. I also thought it was funny. The scene where they save the kids, but one of them dies and it just happens to be the one that Peter? was trying to save and he is also expecting a child is a really interesting conflict for me. I also thought the funeral scene and everything about that part of the movie was very beautiful. I think there is a lot to like about the movie, and the more you watch it the more you can see that.

 

I didn't really feel like Life Aquatic had anything to say. It seemed more like entertainment than reflection in my opinion. Just from seeing the previews of MK I think it will be good.

[popiax]

I didn't mind this movie...like I was moderately entertained. I like his movies but I mean you go into it knowing that it's probably going to be a story about sad, passive-aggressive rich people and a quirky love story. Although, I seriously regret seeing it on opening night in the only theatre that was showing it in the city because HOLY SHIT DOES ANYONE ELSE HATE OPENING NIGHT CROWDS AS MUCH AS I DO????!!

Why do people feel the need to overreact to the movie on opening night? The director isn't there (most likely not where I live anyway). You're not going to hurt anyone's feelings if you don't have a five minute applause session through the credits (or during the movie) or stand up and clutch your girlfriend the cutesy ending song and stare longingly together at the credit roll. I find that the humour in Wes Anderson movies is pretty subtle and not generally like laugh out loud funny but the entire theatre every three seconds was all LOLOMGLMFAODKDFJJFsjd. It just seemed like there was this really strange, phony vibe happening in the theatre that I really did not understand. I've only really ever noticed this kind of thing on opening nights...

So yeah my total cynicism kind of got in the way of this movie for me, hahah. I think I'll watch it again when it's out of theatres.

[sweepstakes]

I find that the humour in Wes Anderson movies is pretty subtle and not generally like laugh out loud funny but the entire theatre every three seconds was all LOLOMGLMFAODKDFJJFsjd. It just seemed like there was this really strange, phony vibe happening in the theatre that I really did not understand. I've only really ever noticed this kind of thing on opening nights...

This is interesting to me, because this is the impression that I've got from his movies - they aren't really funny to me although I recognize their attempts at, or suggestions of, humor, and it seems that to somebody they are actually belly-laugh funny. That this type of humor is for some "cool kids", somewhere, and not for me.

 

But I thought that this perception was off-base, that it was some latent junior-high insecurity and alienation poking through. Maybe not.

[Redruth]

 

i found bill murray to be dry and boring in this but i suppose that is what he was meant to be. i left the film trying to remember if he was in it. i felt as though moonrise kingdom took more of andersons effort then previous films might have, almost forced. this being said i still enjoyed the film quite a bit and would likely only rate it medium when comparing it to other wes anderson films. wes anderson is americas jean-pierre jeunet. i have to admit, i do like jean-pierre jeunet slightly more however.

 

[Candiru]

I've always wondered why Wes Anderson bothers to write stories with important parts that are supposed to carry emotional weight, but make none of it feel the slightest bit real or sincere. Sometimes his humor works for me, though.

[Guest zaphod]

weird, i thought moonrise was especially sincere at various points. the most disappointing aspect of the film is that it shies away from exploring the more emotional aspects of childhood and by the end becomes a tedious adventure story. but it certainly had a lot of moments that rang very true, at least for me. the girl i saw it with thought the two child actors were a little annoying at first, but grew to appreciate the awkwardness as being genuine and not put upon. i'm never sure with anderson, as a lot of his films are so stylized, but moonrise kingdom seemed like the most "real" movie he's made.

[Candiru]

Haven't watched the new one yet, but glad to hear it's a bit different from his other movies. I think he could be great if he just a did some things a bit differently.

[murve33]

I wish this film wasn't a limited release. Closest theaters that are playing it are in the Twin Cities, and that adds up to a lot of money just to see a film.

[ghOsty]

Im not a huge Anderson fan, but I'll probably check this one out... I love The Life Aquatic, and Fantastic Mr. Fox was good. but I didn't really like The Royal Tenenbaums, it kinda bored me. This one looks entertaining though.

[cruising for burgers]

is it possible that in the cinema i watched it they screened a 4:3 version of it??? i kept wondering, it wasn't 16:9 that i'm sure, they even closed the black curtains a bit...

[goffer]

is it possible that in the cinema i watched it they screened a 4:3 version of it??? i kept wondering, it wasn't 16:9 that i'm sure, they even closed the black curtains a bit...

 

Same thing happened with me, supposed to be shown in 1.85. I complained and got my money back.

[cruising for burgers]

is it possible that in the cinema i watched it they screened a 4:3 version of it??? i kept wondering, it wasn't 16:9 that i'm sure, they even closed the black curtains a bit...

 

Same thing happened with me, supposed to be shown in 1.85. I complained and got my money back.

i didn't mind at all, i liked the polaroid stop motion feeling! :)

[goffer]

I didnt mind it so much either, I rather enjoyed the movie, but regardless, if i drop $15 to see a movie I'd except the projectionist to know what the hell he/she is doing. You go to a Wes Anderson film for the details and knowing that details were being boxed out during my entire viewing ruined it a bit for me.

[cruising for burgers]

I didnt mind it so much either, I rather enjoyed the movie, but regardless, if i drop $15 to see a movie I'd except the projectionist to know what the hell he/she is doing. You go to a Wes Anderson film for the details and knowing that details were being boxed out during my entire viewing ruined it a bit for me.

lol, here i only pay 5€, shitty cinema though, don't even believe that there's a real projectionist... xD

[J3FF3R00]

I thought this was definitely one of my faves of Wes A's.

I also really liked FMF and Darjeeling ltd. Life aquatic kinda sucked, IMO.

My only real problems with this one were with Bill Murray and Frances MacDormand. I thought they were completely miss-cast. I thought their relationship was good, I just didn't buy either of them in their role, at all. Also, neither of them seemed very "lawyerly". I liked their bit of lawyerly dialogue toward the end tho. I think they just missed a few good opportunities.

Dispite all of that, I really loved the movie.

[Salvatorin]

I find that the humour in Wes Anderson movies is pretty subtle and not generally like laugh out loud funny but the entire theatre every three seconds was all LOLOMGLMFAODKDFJJFsjd. It just seemed like there was this really strange, phony vibe happening in the theatre that I really did not understand. I've only really ever noticed this kind of thing on opening nights...

 

I went to see it with a friend in July and this is exactly what happened. People were just laughing at nothing. They were laughing at cuts. Laughing at scenes with no action. Laughing at bits of dialogue that not even someone on nitrous oxide would laugh at. These people had to be mentally handicapped, there is no other way to explain wtf they were doing. It really pissed me off because it was hard to focus on the movie, and I really don't believe that these laughing people even had any idea how to watch a movie. It is as if they didn't come to watch a wes anderson movie....they came to be in the theatre while a wes anderson movie played.

[Redruth]

welcome to potsdam

[cruising for burgers]

there were only maybe 1 or 2 couples besides me and my friend in the theater where we watched it.

:)

[joshuatxuk]

I thought this was definitely one of my faves of Wes A's.

I also really liked FMF and Darjeeling ltd. Life aquatic kinda sucked, IMO.

My only real problems with this one were with Bill Murray and Frances MacDormand. I thought they were completely miss-cast. I thought their relationship was good, I just didn't buy either of them in their role, at all. Also, neither of them seemed very "lawyerly". I liked their bit of lawyerly dialogue toward the end tho. I think they just missed a few good opportunities.

Dispite all of that, I really loved the movie.

 

I felt like Bill Murray had to be in the movie. They both had some good moments (mostly the ones in the trailers btw) but I agree, they probably could of been played by more appropriate actors. I thought Edward Norton and Bruce Willis were great and endearing in their roles.

 

I loved it - the pacing especially was really good, I felt like this was the most linear and least gimmicky movie he's done in terms of editing (I have no seen Darjeeling tho). Music was really subtle and well-placed too. My wife knew we'd love all the twee vintage aesthetic stuff before we even saw it - she even owns a little purse that looks like the raccoon badges in the film.

 

I find that the humour in Wes Anderson movies is pretty subtle and not generally like laugh out loud funny but the entire theatre every three seconds was all LOLOMGLMFAODKDFJJFsjd. It just seemed like there was this really strange, phony vibe happening in the theatre that I really did not understand. I've only really ever noticed this kind of thing on opening nights...

 

I went to see it with a friend in July and this is exactly what happened. People were just laughing at nothing. They were laughing at cuts. Laughing at scenes with no action. Laughing at bits of dialogue that not even someone on nitrous oxide would laugh at. These people had to be mentally handicapped, there is no other way to explain wtf they were doing. It really pissed me off because it was hard to focus on the movie, and I really don't believe that these laughing people even had any idea how to watch a movie. It is as if they didn't come to watch a wes anderson movie....they came to be in the theatre while a wes anderson movie played.

 

I've had the experience twice - once during Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (part 1) and another at Scott Pilgrim. During HP there were twenty-somethings laughing at parts which, if you even had a vague idea of what occurred in the book OR paid attention to the previous films, were completely inappropriate. During Scott Pilgrim I heard a bunch of middle-school aged teens loudly cheering and name-checking VG and 80s references. In fact, before the movie the theater was running old Nintendo ads and other youtube videos about Mario and Zelda and the same group of kids were acting all nostalgic for these games that came out BEFORE THEY WERE BORN - so fucking annoying. Maybe it's a phase, but why can't people just embrace their individual preferences instead of trying to come off as cool or noticeable all the time!?

[popiax]

It is as if they didn't come to watch a wes anderson movie....they came to be in the theatre while a wes anderson movie played.

 

Yes, exactly!