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Weird side question here, does anyone have insight into the photos that are included with the Sasha Frere-Jones article/interview? Are they just subjective creative content or are the relevant to the article? I kind of wanted to believe that they were from Sean's or Rob's neighborhood, but that seems hyper-unlikely.

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alco review by alco:   this is the new "autechre" album by them, the brothers. it's called "sign" which is short for "signs." i believe this is an m night shaymalan (or whatever) reference a

the autechre brothers. "the signs" in 2020. october. i forget the date. i'm meeting up with them, the "boys" of autechre. sean, the one who thinks its sick to make beats super wacky is smoking a cigar

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22 hours ago, Wurstwasser said:

Nah, not as harsh as you are saying.

Programming stuff in Max and letting all the lights marketing shine on it. It helps maintaining a nerd status.

I think I didn't say marketing is a bad thing.

But you haven't given any reason to believe that it isn't true. Again: Autechre programming their own tools in Max isn't some outrageous thing that requires suspension of disbelief. So why should anyone take your word over theirs?

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Never care for numbers but for unknown reasons I take keen interest in Spotify figures. 
 

Autechre take a mahoosive leap from (roughly) a very steady monthly reading of 140,000 listeners (they used to be about 85,000 when I joined a few years ago) to almost 220,000!

Awesome 😎 

I also bought the physical so I’m not just a Spotify vampire  🧛‍♂️ 

 

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4 hours ago, sherkaner said:

Heh, sure, but Anti EP is the perfect counterpoint. You’d expect a set of tracks that were intended to “non-repetitive dance music” to be 1000 variations on the same 4 bars, but listen to the amazing development within each of the 3 tracks. It’s that element that I’m greedily wanting Autechre to fuse with their current level of virtuoso command of sound design, rhythm, and even melody. 

i'm generally with you on wanting more 'development' within any song. but i also know from years of listening to AE that even when it seems static, there's a 95% chance that there's development and growth happening that you're just not aware of fully, it takes time to sorta tune your ears to their tracks and get into and see what's happening. one of the great things about them ofc. 

but naturally, that's not every track. there's some that truly are 'static' in some sense or another (elseq i'm looking at you). i know i've already started to sorta sink in on some that seemed at the surface more static, and i'm starting to understand where the development is happening...but of course, there's large parts of the instrumentation on this that isn't obviously twisty and morphing and kicking in huge changes, it is 'static' but there is much else happening within.

greedily wanting something out of any artist is almost always a fool's errand, naturally. i'm very guilty of the same over the years, but luckily have sorta broke myself of that for the most part. especially with AE or similar artists...they're just gonna do what they're gonna do and either you're into or you're not, or maybe it'll click with you later. again, the expectations i think are what's hurting many people's impressions of this album. obv that's not all of it and it's not for everyone, like any art. :flower:

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24 minutes ago, dingformung said:

elseq as an example for "static" tracks...

Probably mostly referring to tbm2, pendulu casual, spTh and even eastre... those I'd say are arguably pretty static and especially seemed so at first impression.  That's about it tho... elseq is a banquet

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5 hours ago, Mic Finger said:

Weird side question here, does anyone have insight into the photos that are included with the Sasha Frere-Jones article/interview? Are they just subjective creative content or are the relevant to the article? I kind of wanted to believe that they were from Sean's or Rob's neighborhood, but that seems hyper-unlikely.

I believe it's a byproduct of self-publishing (substack is a self-publishing platform), SFJ is breaking up text blocks to appear lighter on the eyes but has to do it with unlicensed pictures, so he just uses his own.

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7 minutes ago, purlieu said:

So any news on the green one yet?

Rumour has it that, to counter the unwanted popularity from SIGN, the green album is a single 58-minute-long fart (but with a bewildering amount of fine detail "buried" in it)

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8 minutes ago, purlieu said:

So any news on the green one yet?

Waiting for November 13th currently (tho if it's a release date, then news could be closer in calendar)

Notice the green gradient next to orange

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59 minutes ago, Amen Lare said:

Waiting for November 13th currently (tho if it's a release date, then news could be closer in calendar)

Notice the green gradient next to orange

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is this from their site?

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1 hour ago, purlieu said:

So any news on the green one yet?

Nah, they changed their minds. Rob and Sean got sick of Wurstwasser complaining in the back seat, so Sean said, "That's it! I'm turnin' this car around!!". No holiday down south in the greens for us. Thanks a lot Wursty. Always ruining it for the rest of us. 

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Received my vinyl today as well as the new DgoHn. Happened to notice that they both have long barcodes on the left hand side of the back cover. Is this a strange coincidence or a common thing with vinyl covers nowadays? 

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While I still enjoy SIGN, I find it frustrating that nothing hits quite as hard as that first livestream listen? it felt like 25 minutes of going 'woahhh'!
Like every album release, it forced me to revisit the previous NTS Sessions which I once found spotty and impenetrable. Some more gems for sure, but thats how it goes with autechre.

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1 hour ago, gnarlybog said:

While I still enjoy SIGN, I find it frustrating that nothing hits quite as hard as that first livestream listen? it felt like 25 minutes of going 'woahhh'!
Like every album release, it forced me to revisit the previous NTS Sessions which I once found spotty and impenetrable. Some more gems for sure, but thats how it goes with autechre.

Yea fair point but it’s hard to replicate the experience of a first listen. For me:

1. warp streaming event: “holy shit this is transcendent! I can’t even comprehend what I’m hearing!”

2. Second full playthrough: “ok I maybe overreacted, it’s good but I should tone down my inner Autechre fanboy and listen more objectively. Not as beat-forward as I was hoping.”

3rd listen on headphones: “godamn these dudes are aliens, this is so, so good. Th Red a is completely fucking me up. Best Ae album since LP 5.” 
 

and that’s still where I’m at with it. I guess what I’m saying is it’s normal to re-evaluate albums over time but it’s tough to hold it to the standard of the first listen. That experience is always unique.

 

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...so, I confirm that I like the graphics of sign, especially now that I see it printed, only I say that warp could invest a few pounds more on the cardboard. I don't think Autechre are a commercial gamble, there should be all the guarantees for the sold out, and a slightly thicker cardboard shouldn't lead to bankruptcy.

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I agree a slightly thicker cardboard would have been better. My record arrived already damaged on the top.

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19 hours ago, modey said:

Nah, they changed their minds. Rob and Sean got sick of Wurstwasser complaining 

I'm not only complaining. And seriously, this is not funny.

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32 minutes ago, Wurstwasser said:

I'm not only complaining. And seriously, this is not funny.

I have nothing against your disappointment with Sign, indeed, having a voice out of the chorus avoids turning the forum into a celebration exercise, but, let me say, that was not an aggressive post

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20 hours ago, jellied cope said:

is this from their site?

From Japanese label that releases Warp https://www.beatink.com/user_data/warp2020.php

31 minutes ago, Wurstwasser said:

I'm not only complaining. And seriously, this is not funny.

Another sceptic bullied away for his audacity!

Nice job, fellow subforuminians

 

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8 minutes ago, Draft78 said:

I have nothing against your disappointment with Sign, indeed, having a voice out of the chorus avoids turning the forum into a celebration exercise, but, let me say, that was not an aggressive post

I read now the previous post ... yes, that was more aggressive, but I hope not enough to become a serious thing

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