Russia is now bombing Ukraine

[chenGOD]

2 hours ago, Satans Little Helper said:

Care for a plate of Nasi Goreng? Keeps your mind from going back again and again and again. This horrible complicated reality of a plate of Nasi Goreng. mmmm

That's a good looking Nasi!

[dcom]

1 hour ago, J3FF3R00 said:

and he’s also threatening to use his nuclear weapons. 

...and Russia's already waging a mis/disinformation campaign about Ukrainian chemical weapons (that do not exist, natch) as a pretext to using them themselves and/or as an excuse to escalate the hostilities even more.

Edited March 11, 2022 by dcom

[zkom]

There are also far-left and anarchist militants fighting against Russia in Ukraine

More analysis https://www.militantwire.com/p/ukrainian-anarchists-mobilize-for?s=r

[ambermonk]

Just now, zkom said:

There are also far-left and anarchist militants fighting against Russia in Ukraine

More analysis https://www.militantwire.com/p/ukrainian-anarchists-mobilize-for?s=r

Basically the Freedom faction from S.T.A.L.K.E.R. but IRL

In all seriousness though, I hope all the fighters in Kyiv can continue to hold the line. Also I wonder if there's a way to cripple Moscow's nuclear capabilities via cyber assault, although I'm not sure how antiquated their launch systems are.

[dcom]

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1. We don't want war, we are only defending ourselves!
2. Our adversary is solely responsible for this war!
3. Our adversary's leader is inherently evil and resembles the devil
4. We are defending a noble cause, not our particular interests!
5. The enemy is purposefully committing atrocities; if we are making mistakes this happens without intention
6. The enemy makes use of illegal weapons
7. We suffer few losses, the enemy's losses are considerable
8. Recognized intellectuals and artists support our cause
9. Our cause is sacred
10. Whoever casts doubt on our propaganda helps the enemy and is a traitor

The Basic Principles of War Propaganda (Wikipedia)

That would be 10/10 for Russia.

Edited March 11, 2022 by dcom

[J3FF3R00]

The fact of the matter is that if an invaded country desires to fight to defend itself, everyone who fights back does so regardless of their background: fathers, teenagers, pensioners, mothers, people with disabilities, immigrants, left wing, right wing, apolitical, white collar, blue collar, straight, gay, pedo, autechre fans, etc. The fact that the entire damn country was invaded means the whole country reacts. Not as many tweets being shared around here of the devastation that’s being infected as there are of some fringey militant randos. We can sit here and cherry pick who’s fighting back forever but at the end of the day it just ends up looking like victim blaming. 

[dcom]

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Finland's Transport and Communications Agency, Traficom, has issued a public announcement informing of an unusual spike in GPS interference near the country's eastern border.

The origin of the interference remains unknown, but based on numerous reports submitted to the agency from various sources, it has started during the weekend and is still ongoing.

This has resulted in issuing NOTAMs (notices to airmen) to raise pilot awareness and help them take additional measures to keep flights safe.

Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference (BleepingComputer)

[dcom]

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Three Nordic newspapers, Helsingin Sanomat, Dagens Nyheter and Politiken, publish our articles on the war in Russian language. We aim to provide the Russians with impartial and trustworthy news and coverage.

News in Russian (Helsingin Sanomat, the main newspaper in Finland)

[zkom]

4 minutes ago, dcom said:

Finnish govt agency warns of unusual aircraft GPS interference (BleepingComputer)

The same thing happened in 2017 and 2018, just a bit different location. https://www.businessinsider.com/finland-norway-tell-pilots-to-fly-without-gps-and-some-blame-russia-2018-11

Maybe NATO should start jamming the GLONASS frequencies near Ukraine

[dcom]

24 minutes ago, zkom said:

The same thing happened in 2017 and 2018

Russian fighters violate Swedish airspace as Finland-Sweden hold military drills (YLE, the Finnish National Broadcasting Company)

I'm pointing it out with these posts that there is a stark Finnish reality component to the Russia-Ukraine war; flap your gums here all you want about Nazis, real or imaginary, but Russia's right next to us and the economic sanctions are hitting us by proxy quite hard, too, as a lot of Finnish companies do business with Russia and many have manufacturing and product storage in Russia (e.g. Nokian Tyres, whose stock has tanked). Russia makes both direct and veiled threats towards Finland all the time, the latest being the passive-aggressive hint at nuclear escalation if Finland applies for NATO membership. It grinds my gears a bit to read some of the back-and-forth bickering here when the people doing it are halfway across the world on the other side of the Atlantic and have absolutely no skin in the game.

Edited March 11, 2022 by dcom

[cichlisuite]

16 minutes ago, J3FF3R00 said:

The fact of the matter is that if an invaded country desires to fight to defend itself, everyone who fights back does so regardless of their background: fathers, teenagers, pensioners, mothers, people with disabilities, immigrants, left wing, right wing, apolitical, white collar, blue collar, straight, gay, pedo, autechre fans, etc. The fact that the entire damn country was invaded means the whole country reacts. Not as many tweets being shared around here of the devastation that’s being infected as there are of some fringey militant randos. We can sit here and cherry pick who’s fighting back forever but at the end of the day it just ends up looking like victim blaming. 

But not everyone fights on the same side though. As ww2 history showed us, every country under Nazi occupation had a resistance and a collaborationist movements. Even neutral or un-invaded countries had volunteers who fought on both sides. And the messed up thing about the collaborators was that they legitimately thought they were fighting for a good cause, e.g. anti-communist. Unfortunately, this divide is still present today, and it further messes up things.

New generations don't have the experience of the horrors of past wars. One would think that a country such as Ukraine, in which nazi pogroms were so terrible, they would be extra vigilant towards nazi ideologies, but it evidently (and unfortunately) isn't so.

[EdamAnchorman]

1 hour ago, ambermonke said:

In all seriousness though, I hope all the fighters in Kyiv can continue to hold the line. Also I wonder if there's a way to cripple Moscow's nuclear capabilities via cyber assault, although I'm not sure how antiquated their launch systems are.

Some people have questioned whether or not the systems that control Russia's nuclear weapons would even fully function if they were to want to launch them (due to neglect, lack of funding, etc.).

Edited March 11, 2022 by randomsummer

[Silent Member]

Very worried about the stories about Ukrainan biological weapons that the Russians are cooking up now, and the rumours of a forthcoming false flag attack from "Ukraine"(Russia) on Belarus. This is all so incredibly fucked up and depressing.

[J3FF3R00]

43 minutes ago, cichlisuite said:

But not everyone fights on the same side though. As ww2 history showed us, every country under Nazi occupation had a resistance and a collaborationist movements. Even neutral or un-invaded countries had volunteers who fought on both sides. And the messed up thing about the collaborators was that they legitimately thought they were fighting for a good cause, e.g. anti-communist. Unfortunately, this divide is still present today, and it further messes up things.

New generations don't have the experience of the horrors of past wars. One would think that a country such as Ukraine, in which nazi pogroms were so terrible, they would be extra vigilant towards nazi ideologies, but it evidently (and unfortunately) isn't so.

It’s a big country. It’s also a democracy. America, for example, has a HUGE militarized far-right contingent that is even bolstered by mainstream media/politicians (and I really wish that situation didn’t exist)… but if we were invaded and strangled by a fascist nation with nuclear capabilities, I would really hope that the people in other countries around the wouldn’t sit around pointing fingers at us saying “but there are far right extremists in america”. 

[ignatius]

this timeline... ugh. 

 

[Nebraska]

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DUBAI, March 11 (Reuters) - Crypto firms in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) are being deluged with requests to liquidate billions of dollars of virtual currency as Russians seek a safe haven for their fortunes, company executives and financial sources said. 

Some clients are using cryptocurrency to invest in real estate in the UAE, while others want to use firms there to turn their virtual money into hard currency and stash it elsewhere, the sources said.

“We have one guy – I don’t know who he is, but he came through a broker – and they’re like, ‘we want to sell 125,000 bitcoin’. And I’m like, ‘what? That’s $6 billion guys’. And they’re like, ‘yeah, we’re going to send it to a company in Australia’,” the executive said.

https://www.reuters.com/business/exclusive-russians-liquidating-crypto-uae-seek-safe-havens-2022-03-11/

 

 

[Enthusiast]

5 hours ago, cichlisuite said:

New generations don't have the experience of the horrors of past wars. One would think that a country such as Ukraine, in which nazi pogroms were so terrible, they would be extra vigilant towards nazi ideologies, but it evidently (and unfortunately) isn't so.

Stalin killed around 4 million Ukrainians in 1932/33 . https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Ukraine in the 30's and 40's might have been the worst place in the world to be in the 20th century.

[chenGOD]

4 hours ago, J3FF3R00 said:

I would really hope that the people in other countries around the wouldn’t sit around pointing fingers at us saying “but there are far right extremists in america”

There would be, but probably not as many as inside the US....

[thefxbip]

25 minutes ago, Enthusiast said:

Stalin killed around 4 million Ukrainians in 1932/33 . https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Ukraine in the 30's and 40's might have been the worst place in the world to be in the 20th century.

fucking hellish

[ghsotword]

5 hours ago, randomsummer said:

Some people have questioned whether or not the systems that control Russia's nuclear weapons would even fully function if they were to want to launch them (due to neglect, lack of funding, etc.).

I picture Russia's nuclear launch control computer as a PC that hasn't been touched since it was inherited from Yeltsin's government. It's a white box with a CRT monitor, with a floppy disk drive and a CD drive, running pirated Windows 98, and has somehow got infected with BonziBuddy malware

[Rubin Farr]

[Nebraska]

you know things are bad if someone is throwing money around like this and people aren't clawing each others eyes out for it

 

[brian trageskin]

8 hours ago, J3FF3R00 said:

pedo, autechre fans.

[zkom]

18 hours ago, randomsummer said:

Some people have questioned whether or not the systems that control Russia's nuclear weapons would even fully function if they were to want to launch them (due to neglect, lack of funding, etc.).

There's an old Finnish joke about Russian technology (not an exact translation because it would be too clumsy, but close):

Q: What is something that doesn't vibrate and doesn't fit in your ass?

A: A Russian ass vibrator

[zlemflolia]

 

rachel maddow denying the holocaust to attack putin by saying hitler didn't kill ethnic german people