Goiter Sanchez Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I am proud to have started with Untilted in '05... Crazy good jumping off point imo. From there I worked worked my way backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) what if u were listening to ae nonstop as a 14 yr old.... rounding out my decade of ae love before i'm 25... suck on those ae bona fides ehrlichman Edited November 9, 2015 by dr lopez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spptrl alt del Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 can we turn this into a pissing match? Finally got to the Krakow set... a welcome aggressiveness/edge going on in the first half, something that's lacking on the other nights (compensated for with elegance and clarity). heavy until the wet, farty bass track at 34 minutes in.. there it sort of lacks the impact, or meatiness, of the other sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanketforts Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Haha I remember a friend pointing out that farty bass part a year ago when I first got ahold of this set. It is so farty and nonsensical. I also agree that Krakow has a nice agressiveness from the get-go. In addition, Krakow may have my favorite ending of the four, but I'm not sure. Still wrapping my head around the four sets in general. Ae's music has always sounded different to me on repeated listens - now it's an extra puzzle to sort out just how different these sets really are from each other given the sheer amount of music to contend with. Pretty fascinating project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I finished listening to all four sets last night. Overall it was exactly what I wanted after going to see them live late last September. On each one they have the same set pattern sequence, yet they change it up each time with different nuances.And that "farty bass" part you guys mentioned...we must be referring to the same thing when I mention the "pseudo-dubstep" part. Seemed like it was strongest in the Dublin set, but I'd have to listen to them all again in case there's something I missed the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghOsty Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I've always been into the studio stuff but never really heard any of the live sets, so admittedly AE in a live context is a bit new.I've only listened to Utrecht and currently listening Brussels so far I might have to say I'm enjoying Brussels set a bit more, but that maybe only because I'm more awake now than I was when giving the Utrecht set a listen. Brussels seems more dynamic and punchier though upon first listen.... These are all gonna take multiple listens to catch the subtle differences though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aar2697 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Oh hey, first time in 14 years an Autechre album made it in the top 100 albums on Rate Your Music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghOsty Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Really digging the Brussels and Utrecht sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amad Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) Brussels is certainly good if not the best of the bunch (still need to listen to utrecht) I don't think the 'farty bass' thing makes the sets worse, I could guess it is a more humorous bit (yeah they have that) Also it is nice in a rhythmic sense Edited November 11, 2015 by amad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I love that part! the one that's around 30 minutes into each set? that's one of my fav parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Yeah, wtf?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeAreOceans Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Yeah I would say almost everything they release divides fans to some degree, but I haven't seen a word of negativity regarding these. Some of the live shows have had polarisation, at least from folks attending them. This review came out from Manchester last week: I get the criticisms but I don't really sympathise (Also "Vlettrmix" PFFFF). Just isn't for everyone. Anyway excuse me whilst I listen to the live Krakow set for the three millionth time so I can cry forever (or at least until London show) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I think I can sympathise. If an Ae gig is kind of a rare event, I can imagine an hour is a bit short. Even though it's completely new stuff. Why not f#ck around for another hour, but redoing the old classics with their current set up? Which is a ridiculous thing to say, i know. But most people would only need a couple of hints of old melodies and old rhythms to recognise the reference, i think. A good example is cygnus using some eggshell bit in his set. Or the gantz graf f-ckery. I'd assume it would be a nice experiment to try and reproduce some of those tunes with their current set up. To have those tunes constructed and deconstructed at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 If you've been keeping up with Autechre's work you can hear all kinds of elements of their recent releases in these sets - textures, rhythms, techniques, specific sounds. It's just not their style to blatantly regurgitate old melodies verbatim. Can you imagine how cheesy that would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 yeah that would be terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I found the material pretty dense, making an hour appropriate. Even listening to the live sets, by the end of the hour or so I need a break. Not that I was getting ear fatigue, more like brain fatigue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 it could be done in a cheesy way. but it could also be done in a non-cheese way. why not? and i wasn't talking or thinking about "blatantly regurgitate old melodies verbatim" either. i'm not here to win arguments, or anything. just saying i could sympathise with the reviewer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I found the material pretty dense, making an hour appropriate. Even listening to the live sets, by the end of the hour or so I need a break. Not that I was getting ear fatigue, more like brain fatigue. I stroke my fine beard and nod to this sentiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 If you've been keeping up with Autechre's work you can hear all kinds of elements of their recent releases in these sets - textures, rhythms, techniques, specific sounds. Very much Keyosc. Which is great 'cause that's one of the best tracks they've ever done (imo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 it could be done in a cheesy way. but it could also be done in a non-cheese way. why not? and i wasn't talking or thinking about "blatantly regurgitate old melodies verbatim" either. i'm not here to win arguments, or anything. just saying i could sympathise with the reviewer. As far as a non-cheese way, I think they could get to a point (I think they are already there) where, by virtue of the algorithmic/parametric nature of their tools, they could extrapolate more complex melodies from a common melodic data source, i.e. changing arpeggiator settings given the same input notes. I think they already do this. But as far as sympathising with the reviewer, by wishing they would do something more familiar I think they are kind of missing the whole point of Autechre. I found the material pretty dense, making an hour appropriate. Even listening to the live sets, by the end of the hour or so I need a break. Not that I was getting ear fatigue, more like brain fatigue. Totally agree. I was feeling this hard by the 3rd night, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotwang Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 they didn't even dance or bop their heads Get a load of this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nenlow66 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I was at the Orlando show. IMO only: I felt like the bass was too loud so I found myself wishing I brought ear plugs. The opening acts played too long, so I was real tired by the time Autechre played. (I'm an old man, though, at 35, and I don't sleep in 'til noon). 3 hours of electronic music before an hour of Autechre is overkill and mostly boring. I have enjoyed listening to the live sets more than I enjoyed being at the concert. Autechre is light years in the future, so to some extent, the things around them need to catch up. I feel like they should play venues with seats, like theaters or concert halls. Why were we still staring at the stage? I feel like the crowd behaviors were outdated, especially in those people who felt like they were supposed to dance. Also, morning Autechre concerts might be fun. New venues for new "music." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I feel like they should play venues with seats, like theaters or concert halls. Why were we still staring at the stage? I feel like the crowd behaviors were outdated, especially in those people who felt like they were supposed to dance. Also, morning Autechre concerts might be fun. New venues for new "music." Good points! I think they could easily pull off doing music in a more performance / concept art environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Lare Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I was going to say that in comparison to concert halls and theaters club is an ultra new environment, but, seeing pics from Manchester thread, i would say go seated rooms with white walls, if only for grandpa Sean's sake, man deserved a break. Build an Ae chapel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJW Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 It would be a shame if dancing wasn't an option, best scenario would be a venue that had balcony seats or something to that effect where people could sit and chill. Personally I find it hard not to dance at least a bit. But I guess it would be an interesting experience to see them in a theatre environment with plush chairs, ornamented walls etc. Just as long as they don't abandon the "old fashioned" dance friendly venues completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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