Guest bitroast Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 The hecker lopatin album is pretty loose and hard to get into, I agree. I like it, but its pretty weird music coming from both of them. There's a sort of emotional detachment especially considering their solo output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lopez Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 tim hecker is really not very good at all. i mean he's canadian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest murphythecat8 Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 oneontrix is as bad and boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraveGlitcher Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 tim hecker is really not very good at all. i mean he's canadian *shakes head slowly* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ooze Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 oneontrix is as bad and boring great post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I've listened to OPN a few times. It doesn't engage a full on hit in the special killing zone in my brain like Aphex and Company. It's good but I don't see the big deal. However this new album announced on Warp raises my interest ten-fold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jasondonervan Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 oneontrix is as bad and boring ass Who's bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ooze Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 haha, can't wait for this album, warp is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logakght Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I can't comprehend the hate to Tim Hecker. The dude makes really good music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhid Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Yeah I would turn that hate around to Florian Hecker instead. One has life... the other does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublename Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I've listened to OPN a few times. It doesn't engage a full on hit in the special killing zone in my brain like Aphex and Company. It's good but I don't see the big deal. However this new album announced on Warp raises my interest ten-fold. There's something missing from his tracks, even when he's on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Yeah I would turn that hate around to Florian Hecker instead. One has life... the other does not. What do you define as 'life'? I enjoy mai experimental electronics in a puzzling/challenging sense. breaking new ground (imo) in sound design. Tim Hecker to me sounds like the result of drowning a U2 album in ambient effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tauhid Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Yeah I would turn that hate around to Florian Hecker instead. One has life... the other does not. What do you define as 'life'? I enjoy mai experimental electronics in a puzzling/challenging sense. breaking new ground (imo) in sound design. Tim Hecker to me sounds like the result of drowning a U2 album in ambient effects. mood, emotion, atmosphere, etc. Sound design, by itself, is worthless. Florian Hecker's shit sounds like being in the mind a looney homeless dude. I mean... vs One is a silly experiment, the other is a composition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 vs these tracs both make me harppy for different reasons. the florian video is funny funny. i like a few oneohtrix point never tracs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 so now we hate opn and tim hecker? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Pretty sure most of watmm loves Tim Hecker. Which is why I usually keep my dislike to myself. But I am amused by the irony of a watmm member's argument against Florian Hecker pretty much being 'that's not music'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Lare Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Yeah I would turn that hate around to Florian Hecker instead. One has life... the other does not. What do you define as 'life'? I enjoy mai experimental electronics in a puzzling/challenging sense. breaking new ground (imo) in sound design. Tim Hecker to me sounds like the result of drowning a U2 album in ambient effects. mood, emotion, atmosphere, etc. Sound design, by itself, is worthless. Florian Hecker's shit sounds like being in the mind a looney homeless dude. One is a silly experiment, the other is a composition. That's not an argument. These are reasons which Lady Gaga fan would use against Tim Hecker itself. African or asian human being may not feel anything towards 'emotional, moody athmosphere' and have all natural rights to be like that. So this is constructed myth about universal law of perception. It's not a composition either, Erik Satie - the predecessor of all things ambient, wasn't regarded (and still isn't by many) as composer and he himself didn't want to. Actually, it's Florian who deliberately compose his music and Tim who doesn't, doing layers over layers. And that means nothing in regard to quality of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Yeah I would turn that hate around to Florian Hecker instead. One has life... the other does not. What do you define as 'life'? I enjoy mai experimental electronics in a puzzling/challenging sense. breaking new ground (imo) in sound design. Tim Hecker to me sounds like the result of drowning a U2 album in ambient effects. mood, emotion, atmosphere, etc. Sound design, by itself, is worthless. Florian Hecker's shit sounds like being in the mind a looney homeless dude. One is a silly experiment, the other is a composition. That's not an argument. These are reasons which Lady Gaga fan would use against Tim Hecker itself. African or asian human being may not feel anything towards 'emotional, moody athmosphere' and have all natural rights to be like that. So this is constructed myth about universal law of perception. It's not a composition either, Erik Satie - the predecessor of all things ambient, wasn't regarded (and still isn't by many) as composer and he himself didn't want to. Actually, it's Florian who deliberately compose his music and Tim who doesn't, doing layers over layers. And that means nothing in regard to quality of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 It's not music if I can't dance to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Friendly Foil you silly. But I lake yoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 id much rather listen to 'silly experiments' than very bland 'composed' ambient music that doesn't evoke any unique sensations whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDobalina Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 posting in a hecker vs. tim hecker argument in a OPN new release thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello spiral Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patternoverlap Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 id much rather listen to 'silly experiments' than very bland 'composed' ambient music that doesn't evoke any unique sensations whatsoever This is interesting because I feel it gets at the heart of why people prefer certain music over others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmanyo Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 wgaf listen 2 the music if u like it lol its just an opinion make youre own reality down2metanarrative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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